RE: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
I have to disagree about the Zope (%s), I have been known to run 2 or 3 Zope services, for different instances, and I always know that I can find them all huddled together at the bottom of the Service Manager - Very useful. Adrian... -- Adrian Hungate Try Zope - http://www.zope.org - You might like it. If you do, try my Zope products - http://www.zope.org/Members/haqa - You might like them too! -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 05:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed We'd like to propose that the service distributed with Zope move over to using our code. Great, Im really looking forward to an improved Windows installation. But lets get it out there play with it before anything major happens like shipping Zope with it :) As a separate issue - we're curious about the naming of the Zope installation - why is it called WebSite (and the Zope service Zope (WebSite))? The name clashes with another product that's fairly well-known in the windows community originally from O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/software/index.html ... and since Zope is a fairly distinctive name ... It is annoying but Zope wins there because OReilly isnt making WebSite anymore. Its just a name, I find the Zope (%s) bit more annoying than anything :) ps. happy to put this up as a project if required. Thats probably a good idea. What about other issues such as install and removing service easily later, STDERR logging not going to /dev/null, lack of start menu icons and other windows issues... Cheers -- Andy McKay ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 16:26, Adrian Hungate wrote: I have to disagree about the Zope (%s), I have been known to run 2 or 3 Zope services, for different instances, and I always know that I can find them all huddled together at the bottom of the Service Manager - Very useful. So does that mean they have different names in the service manager? How do you configure the instances? Richard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
I edit the registry... One of my many favourite pass-times, right up there with running out in traffic. Seriously though, once an instance is configured, why would you want to change it? (Assuming you get it right that is) Adrian... -- Adrian Hungate Try Zope - http://www.zope.org - You might like it. If you do, try my Zope products - http://www.zope.org/Members/haqa - You might like them too! -Original Message- From: Richard Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 07:33 To: Adrian Hungate; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed On Tuesday 25 September 2001 16:26, Adrian Hungate wrote: I have to disagree about the Zope (%s), I have been known to run 2 or 3 Zope services, for different instances, and I always know that I can find them all huddled together at the bottom of the Service Manager - Very useful. So does that mean they have different names in the service manager? How do you configure the instances? Richard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 16:41, Adrian Hungate wrote: I edit the registry... One of my many favourite pass-times, right up there with running out in traffic. Seriously though, once an instance is configured, why would you want to change it? (Assuming you get it right that is) Mostly the interface is for stopping/starting the server, accessing the log, accessing the management screen, adding a manager user (yes, those last two are buttons which just open a URL with the default browser), changing the emergency user password and generally reporting information about the instance. The (Assuming you get it right that is) is also spot on - people will do strange things, and we need a simple interface that we can walk them through on the phone, and also an interface that they're unlikely to cause damage with (as opposed to editing z2.py or the *gak* registry!) This interface is _specifically_ targetted at a new breed of zope user. Someone who was brought up on a diet of IIS or some other plug-n-play web server. Someone who just wants it to work, no registry editing, no config file editing. That's who this stuff is targetted at. I'd say that adding a multi-instance ability would be possible - we'd just have to be able to handle multiple config files. We're just not sure how it should be handled in the UI :) Richard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
I guess its because Zope installs into the same directory as the service name. So I always pick a name starting with Zope, so my installation is say ZopeTest and my service is Zope (ZopeTest) :) - Original Message - From: Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Andy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed I have to disagree about the Zope (%s), I have been known to run 2 or 3 Zope services, for different instances, and I always know that I can find them all huddled together at the bottom of the Service Manager - Very useful. Adrian... -- Adrian Hungate Try Zope - http://www.zope.org - You might like it. If you do, try my Zope products - http://www.zope.org/Members/haqa - You might like them too! -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 05:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed We'd like to propose that the service distributed with Zope move over to using our code. Great, Im really looking forward to an improved Windows installation. But lets get it out there play with it before anything major happens like shipping Zope with it :) As a separate issue - we're curious about the naming of the Zope installation - why is it called WebSite (and the Zope service Zope (WebSite))? The name clashes with another product that's fairly well-known in the windows community originally from O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/software/index.html ... and since Zope is a fairly distinctive name ... It is annoying but Zope wins there because OReilly isnt making WebSite anymore. Its just a name, I find the Zope (%s) bit more annoying than anything :) ps. happy to put this up as a project if required. Thats probably a good idea. What about other issues such as install and removing service easily later, STDERR logging not going to /dev/null, lack of start menu icons and other windows issues... Cheers -- Andy McKay ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
We'd like to propose that the service distributed with Zope move over to using our code. Great, Im really looking forward to an improved Windows installation. But lets get it out there play with it before anything major happens like shipping Zope with it :) As a separate issue - we're curious about the naming of the Zope installation - why is it called WebSite (and the Zope service Zope (WebSite))? The name clashes with another product that's fairly well-known in the windows community originally from O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/software/index.html ... and since Zope is a fairly distinctive name ... It is annoying but Zope wins there because OReilly isnt making WebSite anymore. Its just a name, I find the Zope (%s) bit more annoying than anything :) ps. happy to put this up as a project if required. Thats probably a good idea. What about other issues such as install and removing service easily later, STDERR logging not going to /dev/null, lack of start menu icons and other windows issues... Cheers -- Andy McKay ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 14:23, Andy wrote: We'd like to propose that the service distributed with Zope move over to using our code. Great, Im really looking forward to an improved Windows installation. But lets get it out there play with it before anything major happens like shipping Zope with it :) Fer sure :) It is annoying but Zope wins there because OReilly isnt making WebSite anymore. Yeah, they seem to have sold it to someone else... Its just a name, I find the Zope (%s) bit more annoying than anything :) Agreed. ps. happy to put this up as a project if required. Thats probably a good idea. What about other issues such as install and removing service easily later, STDERR logging not going to /dev/null, lack of start menu icons and other windows issues... These are all things we've addressed, but it'd be good to note them somewhere. We've tried to make the process of using Zope (and hence our product) as painless to the average Windows user (and Mac user) as possible. Richard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Windows: enhancements proposed
These are all things we've addressed, but it'd be good to note them somewhere. We've tried to make the process of using Zope (and hence our product) as painless to the average Windows user (and Mac user) as possible. Oooh, Im a happy camper. -- Andy ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
