Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Five and 2.9

2004-06-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote:
alan runyan wrote:
Alan, does that address your concerns?

Just understand that the Five approach is still being developed, so
there's nothing to adopt yet. :)  But I certainly encourage folks to
participate and help Martijn figure out what the approach should be.

Raphael, I think its great that Jim responded. Now we (collectively)
need to get some usage out of Five.
Jim, Thanks for explaining ZC's position re: FrankenZope or backporting
CA into Zope2.  One of the big questions that I believe is open is how to
use more of zope.app in Zope 2 - specifically Schema/Widgets.  I heard
that Zope Corp. is using this in some projects.

Note that FrankenZope is going to go for the new way of Interface 
integration last I heard (Five's way); the FrankenZope style setup to 
make interfaces work is not needed anymore since the changes to 
zope.interface that I did. This new approach works in straight 2.7.

I also heard rumors that FrankenZope's use of schema/widgets is actually 
an evolved branch of an earlier version of Zope 3. Five's mission is to 
integrate Zope 3 into Zope 2 as much a possible without having to change 
either. Of course this is not always possible, but it's an important 
goal. That said, I'm sure we could learn more from FrankenZope's 
experiences in that area if someone would to speak up about this.
Can we please stop using this name in writing?  It is funny, but not very
reassuring to outsiders. :)
Jim
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Five and 2.9

2004-06-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote:
Can we please stop using this name in writing?  It is funny, but not very
reassuring to outsiders. :)
What do we call this project then? :)
The Project-that-shall-not-be-named!
Regards,
Martijn
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