Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 55 OK, 16 Failed, 3 Unknown

2010-09-26 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 09/26/2010 07:58 AM, Zope Tests Summarizer wrote:

 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Sat Sep 25 09:57:03 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020550.html

This failure is due to 'test-ztk' timing out.  I'm willing to bet that
the 'zope.testrunner' doctests which attempt to test use of pdb are to
blame:  they cause the tests to hang on my machine, anyway.

I would favor commenting out those tests, or even removing them
altogether.  I don't think the feature is worth any price at all in
terms of the overally ecosystem.

 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Sat Sep 25 09:58:14 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020551.html

Ditto.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 55 OK, 16 Failed, 3 Unknown

2010-09-26 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:05:03AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
 On 09/26/2010 07:58 AM, Zope Tests Summarizer wrote:
 
  Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64
  From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
  Date: Sat Sep 25 09:57:03 EDT 2010
  URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020550.html
 
 This failure is due to 'test-ztk' timing out.  I'm willing to bet that
 the 'zope.testrunner' doctests which attempt to test use of pdb are to
 blame:  they cause the tests to hang on my machine, anyway.

I can reproduce that in r116884, but it appears to be fixed in the
latest revision (116919), which bumped zope.testing to 3.10.0.

 I would favor commenting out those tests, or even removing them
 altogether.  I don't think the feature is worth any price at all in
 terms of the overally ecosystem.

Being able to use pdb to debug doctests is occasionally valuable.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 55 OK, 16 Failed, 3 Unknown

2010-09-26 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 09/26/2010 11:52 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:05:03AM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
 On 09/26/2010 07:58 AM, Zope Tests Summarizer wrote:

 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Sat Sep 25 09:57:03 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020550.html

 This failure is due to 'test-ztk' timing out.  I'm willing to bet that
 the 'zope.testrunner' doctests which attempt to test use of pdb are to
 blame:  they cause the tests to hang on my machine, anyway.
 
 I can reproduce that in r116884, but it appears to be fixed in the
 latest revision (116919), which bumped zope.testing to 3.10.0.
 
 I would favor commenting out those tests, or even removing them
 altogether.  I don't think the feature is worth any price at all in
 terms of the overally ecosystem.
 
 Being able to use pdb to debug doctests is occasionally valuable.

I don't mind that such debugging is possible: I do mind very much having
a meta-doctest which tries to demonstrate that feature cause runs of the
test suite to hang.

Those-who-try-to-lift-themselves-by-their-boostraps-kiss-lots-of-pavement'ly,


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