Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-05 Thread Pablo Bleyer Kocik

Stephan Richter wrote:

> > Hey, I am not _that_ silly ;^). I can exit the shell but I leave Zope
> > working
> >in the background, of course. Then all works fine until I do an FTP, which
> >hangs
> >because the server dies.
>
> Sorry, I did not mean to offend you

No ofenses ;^)

> I have not used the FTP for a long
> time, but I also noticed that I cannot get to any directories deeper than
> the root one from Emacs anymore. But that could be caused by my own User
> Folder, since it is not updated with the new security implementation.
> Mmmhh, you use the regular User Folder right?

Yes, the default user folder. I don't access that machine with Emacs, but
maybe I can try doing that to see if I get the same behavior. However, it must
be a problem of the server and not any FTP client.

Cheers!

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Stephan Richter


> Hey, I am not _that_ silly ;^). I can exit the shell but I leave Zope 
> working
>in the background, of course. Then all works fine until I do an FTP, which 
>hangs
>because the server dies.

Sorry, I did not mean to offend you I have not used the FTP for a long 
time, but I also noticed that I cannot get to any directories deeper than 
the root one from Emacs anymore. But that could be caused by my own User 
Folder, since it is not updated with the new security implementation. 
Mmmhh, you use the regular User Folder right?

Regards,
Stephan


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Pablo Bleyer Kocik

Stephan Richter wrote:

> > The problem started occurring without debugging turned on, and it didn't
> >happen always. Then I turned debugging on to trace the bug, and it was
> >worst: there were no logs and the server always dies if I exit the console.
> >I am pretty cueless to what is going on...
>
> Well, yes, the server will die when you close the console if you did not
> start it with nohup or some other program that "unbinds" Zope from the
> Shell as a child. Just start Zope with: nohup ./start &
> All messages will be forwarded to nohup.out in your current directory at
> execution time. You can stop the server with ./stop
>
> Regards,
> Stephan

Hey, I am not _that_ silly ;^). I can exit the shell but I leave Zope working
in the background, of course. Then all works fine until I do an FTP, which hangs
because the server dies.

Cheers!

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Stephan Richter

At 12:21 AM 2/5/01 -0400, Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:


>"Randall F. Kern" wrote:
>
> > Are you starting zope with ./start, or otherwise including -D when z2.py
> > is executed?
> >
> > That will cause Zope to try to write to the terminal when an FTP
> > connection is made.  Since the terminal is gone, Zope dies.
> >
> > -Randy
>
> The problem started occurring without debugging turned on, and it didn't
>happen always. Then I turned debugging on to trace the bug, and it was
>worst: there were no logs and the server always dies if I exit the console.
>I am pretty cueless to what is going on...

Well, yes, the server will die when you close the console if you did not 
start it with nohup or some other program that "unbinds" Zope from the 
Shell as a child. Just start Zope with: nohup ./start &
All messages will be forwarded to nohup.out in your current directory at 
execution time. You can stop the server with ./stop

Regards,
Stephan


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Pablo Bleyer Kocik



"Randall F. Kern" wrote:

> Are you starting zope with ./start, or otherwise including -D when z2.py
> is executed?
>
> That will cause Zope to try to write to the terminal when an FTP
> connection is made.  Since the terminal is gone, Zope dies.
>
> -Randy

The problem started occurring without debugging turned on, and it didn't
happen always. Then I turned debugging on to trace the bug, and it was
worst: there were no logs and the server always dies if I exit the console.
I am pretty cueless to what is going on...

Cheers!

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  @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" — William Blake



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RE: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Randall F. Kern

Are you starting zope with ./start, or otherwise including -D when z2.py
is executed?

That will cause Zope to try to write to the terminal when an FTP
connection is made.  Since the terminal is gone, Zope dies.

-Randy

> -Original Message-
> From: Pablo Bleyer Kocik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 7:41 AM
> To: zope-dev
> Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> > Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:
> > >
> > > I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote 
> machine. When I
> > > try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using 
> Netscape 4.5 under
> > > Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How 
> can I trace
> > > what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die?
> >
> > Stick it in the collector:
> >
> > classic.zope.org:8080/Collector
> >
> > (it's down at the moment :-( )
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> 
> Yep, I was going to do that. However I wanted to track the bug a
> little
> more.
> 
> The problem is not with Netscape; through plain vanilla FTP
> utility I
> get the same situation. But now comes the nice part: If I login to the
> machine and restart Zope then, *without* leaving the shell prompt, the
> FTP
> access works fine. I get the access and success login notices in the
> screen. If I logout and I try to login with ftp again, Zope RIPs ;^/
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> --
> Pablo Bleyer Kocik |
> pbleyer|"Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend
> air;
>   @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" - William Blake
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Chris Withers

Keep CC'ing in the list, this might rign bells for someone else...

...sadly not for me :-S

cheers,

Chris

Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:
> 
> Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> > Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:
> > >
> > > I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote machine. When I
> > > try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using Netscape 4.5 under
> > > Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How can I trace
> > > what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die?
> >
> > Stick it in the collector:
> >
> > classic.zope.org:8080/Collector
> >
> > (it's down at the moment :-( )
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> 
> Yep, I was going to do that. However I wanted to track the bug a little
> more.
> 
> The problem is not with Netscape; through plain vanilla FTP utility I
> get the same situation. But now comes the nice part: If I login to the
> machine and restart Zope then, *without* leaving the shell prompt, the FTP
> access works fine. I get the access and success login notices in the
> screen. If I logout and I try to login with ftp again, Zope RIPs ;^/
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> --
> Pablo Bleyer Kocik |
> pbleyer|"Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air;
>   @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" — William Blake

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Pablo Bleyer Kocik



Chris Withers wrote:

> Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:
> >
> > I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote machine. When I
> > try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using Netscape 4.5 under
> > Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How can I trace
> > what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die?
>
> Stick it in the collector:
>
> classic.zope.org:8080/Collector
>
> (it's down at the moment :-( )
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris

Yep, I was going to do that. However I wanted to track the bug a
little
more.

The problem is not with Netscape; through plain vanilla FTP
utility I
get the same situation. But now comes the nice part: If I login to the
machine and restart Zope then, *without* leaving the shell prompt, the
FTP
access works fine. I get the access and success login notices in the
screen. If I logout and I try to login with ftp again, Zope RIPs ;^/

Cheers!

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pbleyer|"Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend
air;
  @embedded.cl | Hungry clouds swag on the deep" — William Blake

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server dies with Netscape's FTP

2001-02-04 Thread Chris Withers

Pablo Bleyer Kocik wrote:
> 
> I am running Zope 2.3.0 under Linux in a remote machine. When I
> try to access Medusa through FTP (port 8021) using Netscape 4.5 under
> Windows, Zope dies silently. Is this a known issue? How can I trace
> what is happening to Zope's FTP server causing it to die?

Stick it in the collector:

classic.zope.org:8080/Collector

(it's down at the moment :-( )

cheers,

Chris

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