Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On 6/29/11 10:34 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: That's a bit confusing. Either we remove the downloads from launchpad or we make sure it has all of the old ones. +1 for removing. I removed all of them from launchpad. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 00:17, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: - breaking the historic URLs for no purpose is lame, and would cause useless pain to people with older installations that rely on them (Yes, Virginia, there were automated buildouts before zc.buildout). True. Can we have the old download URL's still there, but redirect or link to PyPI from the web? - PyPI is the canonical download location for the current releases: launchpad should just be pointing there. +1 I think also we should not on PyPI hide all releases except the latest one. The download box should contain at minimum all supported releases, preferrably the last of each major version (within reason). //Lennart ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On 2011-6-29 03:02, Johannes Raggam wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 18:17 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/28/2011 01:28 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote: there is a different version set on zope.org and launchpad. on http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/swpackage_releases there are zope 2.8.12, 2.9.12, 2.10.13 and 2.11.8 available, where on launchpad they are not. [...] - PyPI is the canonical download location for the current releases: launchpad should just be pointing there. thats the case since Zope 2.12. older releases aren't there. i think that launchpad should have all releases available, which are listed on zope.org. My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. I would agree that it would be nice to have a single location that lists historic releases, I would expect that to be on zope.org instead of launchpad or some other random third party website. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 08:51 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. I would agree that it would be nice to have a single location that lists historic releases, I would expect that to be on zope.org instead of launchpad or some other random third party website. I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K0rcACgkQRAx5nvEhZLLQNQCgs9fEiTTgxcYRplJ7Gv5054X7 f64AoJk9WX/mksfR6GR3hBjG3epgGTCh =W1wc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. Actually PyPI is the only canonical location for the eggified releases of Zope2. - -aj -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJOCuA/AAoJEADcfz7u4AZj0P8Lvin2YBANtR+j1hz5zhkmAVNZ PYov+wrki/mhI6thaD2j4teyz/3lxmm/8Vm5xm9gix0M0o9m7EHLyiAAJ4shP1Wn Xf3911JzGcJW453Sny3Y7S6ZiVIUrSgSkLSD8MtIAePkppD2g/GKnSenK4POOMuo FYCie9kYgqtdA9wH2c9NLczvSgU+WGhWZpOMAaA2XzcaEtDsMxfyHhkCwa4Y6nQ0 27Mv0BiUwEaEWznl/Yort7WJL78QEvoY87Yda3vynfgnogWZrmvMWuK0mj98X8QK SZ1bLUPw2+pvK0tMacKi0INDw8fzX09Qp54l8GQFLZ3JiDfN9LqDvHwl6wYyjHU+ OQ8RJBx9/Rn190CwoXIcnHqVbh0zuvuW5tmysb2f+XYoVcdySFkLDJyHUSJRLd1J 6NRhKJ+WSA75AGK6KmF77Fl/WHJqtZYK0gHeZvy900dMSc7f3Sd/e0HNMd8OJ/8R q/yM6WWNg6tKpuvWxWPq0oRwq8hGA7w= =uyQk -END PGP SIGNATURE- attachment: lists.vcf___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:20 , Andreas Jung wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. Actually PyPI is the only canonical location for the eggified releases of Zope2. Even better to have just one. The only use case that's not obviously covered is an up-to-date list of old releases. zope2.zope.org appears to advertise itself as that place (see http://zope2.zope.org/releases). jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K4YcACgkQRAx5nvEhZLKlGQCfaJ+I/SgKTQS06s3UWxVtyqWu PH0AnjDks9bRYb6GISq36XkzQacnEykZ =BS2C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. We did upload all non-egg Zope2 releases to https://launchpad.net/zope2/+download but not the latest ones. That's a bit confusing. Either we remove the downloads from launchpad or we make sure it has all of the old ones. I don't care either way for this historical stuff. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:34 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. We did upload all non-egg Zope2 releases to https://launchpad.net/zope2/+download but not the latest ones. That's a bit confusing. Either we remove the downloads from launchpad or we make sure it has all of the old ones. +1 for removing. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K6M8ACgkQRAx5nvEhZLLShACeOmY5WCssNFfUZLJiY6Z5hcad RgIAnRzUB2gJHz9bsrhnU48HqORyEZr0 =TzeY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On 28/06/2011 18:28, Johannes Raggam wrote: on http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/swpackage_releases there are zope 2.8.12, 2.9.12, 2.10.13 and 2.11.8 available, where on launchpad they are not. Not to mention that http://www.zope.org/Products/ is out of date and lists Zope 2.11.4 as the latest 2.11 release, for example... IMO it would be better to move all versions up to launchpad and drop the download section on zope.org (and zope.org will be soon relaunched anyways). Yeah yeah, we'll see ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 18:17 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/28/2011 01:28 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote: there is a different version set on zope.org and launchpad. on http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/swpackage_releases there are zope 2.8.12, 2.9.12, 2.10.13 and 2.11.8 available, where on launchpad they are not. [...] - PyPI is the canonical download location for the current releases: launchpad should just be pointing there. thats the case since Zope 2.12. older releases aren't there. i think that launchpad should have all releases available, which are listed on zope.org. hannes, Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4KUxUACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5YEACgzzpRkzcDHWUNZgqcXL1Z6uWy b/0AoJp3yhIooYsjXq7ajwiqggz8wtoZ =j2FU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
