RE: [Zope-PAS] what plugins are needed for authentication

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Hammond
 Hi there,

 I want to write a PAS Plugin that does only the authentication.

 it should do the authentication and then store it in a
 session for a coupple of hours.

 Now I am unsure which services I have to implement.
 IAuthenticationPlugin ??
 IExtractionPlugin  ??

Without more information, it's unclear what you will need.  Assuming you
want to reuse either HTTP basic or cookie authentication for the mechanics
of getting a username/password pair, you can enable the standard PAS plugins
for IChallengePlugin and IExtractionPlugin.  You should then only need to
implement IAuthenticationPlugin - and the main job there is for you to
validate the credentials, then return a dict with the username you
extracted.  You will also need to have a user manager - the ZODB User
Manager might be OK.  I'd recommend the approach of setting PAS up with
everything working as you want except for the actual authentication you want
to perform.  You should then replace the interfaces from that set until
everything you need is done :)

This is mainly from memory, but I hope it helps...

Mark

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Re: [Zope-PAS] what plugins are needed for authentication

2007-04-04 Thread robert rottermann
Mark Hammond wrote:
 Hi there,

 I want to write a PAS Plugin that does only the authentication.

 it should do the authentication and then store it in a
 session for a coupple of hours.

 Now I am unsure which services I have to implement.
 IAuthenticationPlugin ??
 IExtractionPlugin  ??
 

 Without more information, it's unclear what you will need.  Assuming you
 want to reuse either HTTP basic or cookie authentication for the mechanics
 of getting a username/password pair, you can enable the standard PAS plugins
 for IChallengePlugin and IExtractionPlugin.  You should then only need to
 implement IAuthenticationPlugin - and the main job there is for you to
 validate the credentials, then return a dict with the username you
 extracted.  You will also need to have a user manager - the ZODB User
 Manager might be OK.  I'd recommend the approach of setting PAS up with
 everything working as you want except for the actual authentication you want
 to perform.  You should then replace the interfaces from that set until
 everything you need is done :)

 This is mainly from memory, but I hope it helps...

 Mark

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thank you very mutch to all the answer I got.
This is what I need:

 on an intranet I want to have all users in a plone user_source.
the authentication itself should be against a bunch of
ActiveDirectory-domains.
after the authemtication I just want the user to be authorized without
the need to re authenticate during business hours.

thanks  again
robert

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Re: [Zope-PAS] what plugins are needed for authentication

2007-04-04 Thread robert rottermann
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Wichert Akkerman schrieb:
 Previously robert rottermann wrote:
 Mark Hammond wrote:
 Hi there,

 I want to write a PAS Plugin that does only the authentication.

 it should do the authentication and then store it in a
 session for a coupple of hours.

 Now I am unsure which services I have to implement.
 IAuthenticationPlugin ??
 IExtractionPlugin  ??
 
 Without more information, it's unclear what you will need.  Assuming you
 want to reuse either HTTP basic or cookie authentication for the mechanics
 of getting a username/password pair, you can enable the standard PAS plugins
 for IChallengePlugin and IExtractionPlugin.  You should then only need to
 implement IAuthenticationPlugin - and the main job there is for you to
 validate the credentials, then return a dict with the username you
 extracted.  You will also need to have a user manager - the ZODB User
 Manager might be OK.  I'd recommend the approach of setting PAS up with
 everything working as you want except for the actual authentication you want
 to perform.  You should then replace the interfaces from that set until
 everything you need is done :)

 This is mainly from memory, but I hope it helps...

 Mark

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 thank you very mutch to all the answer I got.
 This is what I need:

  on an intranet I want to have all users in a plone user_source.
 the authentication itself should be against a bunch of
 ActiveDirectory-domains.
 after the authemtication I just want the user to be authorized without
 the need to re authenticate during business hours.
 
 Why do you want to have the users in source_users for that? That isn't
 necessary. Just do the normal AD authentication using LDAPMultiPlugins
 and use a session plugin such as SessionAuthHelper or plone.session.

with this approach we would loose the ability to
- - easily search for users
- - easily add users to ad hoc local groups.

I would be happy to hear that I am wrong tough ..

robert
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Re: [Zope-PAS] what plugins are needed for authentication

2007-04-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously robert rottermann wrote:
 with this approach we would loose the ability to
 - - easily search for users
 - - easily add users to ad hoc local groups.

If you enable user enumeration on the LDAP plugin that should work fine.

Wichert.

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[Zope-PAS] what plugins are needed for authentication

2007-04-03 Thread robert rottermann
Hi there,

I want to write a PAS Plugin that does only the authentication.

it should do the authentication and then store it in a session for a coupple of 
hours.

Now I am unsure which services I have to implement.
IAuthenticationPlugin ??
IExtractionPlugin  ??


in the bygone world off monolithic acl_users  I had authenticate just returned  
True to authenticate the user.
and did noth bother about anything else..

thanks for your insight

robert
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