Re: [ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready

2006-10-15 Thread Jim Fulton

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

when necessary. (How hard would it be to authenticated against 
zope.org via ldap ?)


The LDAP server is on the private network inside the zope.org "cluster" 
and not reachable by the outside world, so as of right now that's not 
possible.


If we continue down the path of microsites the issue of shared 
authentication will become more and more urgent.


If LDAP is still an option (I know quite a few people don't like it 
because they perceive it as complicated or hard to wrap ones brain 
around) the first step would be to set up a central LDAP server instance 
that can be reached over the internet by the different microsites. This 
can be bootstrapped with a data export from the old zope.org server, not 
a big issue. There might be an issue with latency if the geographically 
widely dispersed microsites don't have excellent network connectivity 
towards that central LDAP server, which in turn can be solved by LDAP 
slaves closer to the microsite host.


+1

I don't like using ldap unless there is a good reason to do so,
but it's use here certainly seems justified -- especially if
someone with the requisite expertise is involved. :)

Jim

--
Jim Fulton   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Python Powered!
CTO  (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org
Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com   http://www.zope.org
___
Zope-web maillist  -  Zope-web@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web


Re: [ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready

2006-10-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

when necessary. (How hard would it be to authenticated against  
zope.org via ldap ?)


The LDAP server is on the private network inside the zope.org  
"cluster" and not reachable by the outside world, so as of right now  
that's not possible.


If we continue down the path of microsites the issue of shared  
authentication will become more and more urgent.


If LDAP is still an option (I know quite a few people don't like it  
because they perceive it as complicated or hard to wrap ones brain  
around) the first step would be to set up a central LDAP server  
instance that can be reached over the internet by the different  
microsites. This can be bootstrapped with a data export from the old  
zope.org server, not a big issue. There might be an issue with  
latency if the geographically widely dispersed microsites don't have  
excellent network connectivity towards that central LDAP server,  
which in turn can be solved by LDAP slaves closer to the microsite host.


From that description you'll see an obvious cost/benefit issue for  
each microsite that has to be considered carefully, as the cost also  
involves setting up and maintaining the LDAP client pieces on the  
microsite host.


jens

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)

iD8DBQFFMm7gRAx5nvEhZLIRAoyTAJ0YSlHWhRffrolHcLB0dAi1XXP85ACeNlnz
WimD4rJ1D+Ln8ixvzYZgPrg=
=cW1/
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
___
Zope-web maillist  -  Zope-web@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web


Re: [ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready

2006-10-15 Thread Baiju M

On 10/15/06, Simon Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

An upgraded copy of the Zope 3 wiki is now live:

   http://zope3.zwiki.org


I want to move http://kpug.zwiki.org/Zope3Pages to this wiki.
Will do it one by one.  First I am merging http://kpug.zwiki.org/Zope3Faq
to http://zope3.zwiki.org/FAQ

I will change format of FAQ page to ReST.

Regards,
Baiju M
___
Zope-web maillist  -  Zope-web@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web


Re: [ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready

2006-10-14 Thread Simon Michael
and 2. it is slow, slower than it should be, I'll 
have to investigate, but later.


Better now! I had removed some necessary catalog fields.

___
Zope-web maillist  -  Zope-web@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web


[ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready

2006-10-14 Thread Simon Michael

An upgraded copy of the Zope 3 wiki is now live:

  http://zope3.zwiki.org

Please check it out and report any problems. Pretty much everything should 
be intact. Note: 1. no special skinning or styling has been done - a topic 
for later - and 2. it is slow, slower than it should be, I'll have to 
investigate, but later.


Both wikis are writable right now. The old wiki on zope.org is still the 
master copy, but I'd like to make it read-only as soon as you agree, to 
avoid confusion and resyncing work. Until you might want to just hold off 
on major edits.


It turns out export and import was the efficient way to move these pages. I 
didn't expect it to import cleanly first time into a modern zope, but it 
just worked! Hurrah!! Then there was a good deal of fun getting things 
cleaned up with minimal changes to the metadata. I'll post my notes 
somewhere in due course.


This wiki currently can be edited by anyone who configures a username (by 
clicking options). This has stopped most zwiki spam up till now, but there 
will be an incident once in a while, which I'll clean up. I will watch for 
problems and tighten things up when necessary. (How hard would it be to 
authenticated against zope.org via ldap ?)


Structured Text, Restructured Text, Epoz-HTML and Plaintext markups are 
available, and the default markup is still STX. Let me know if it should be 
changed to RST.


I have created manager accounts for Jim and Michael H. I'll stop here for 
now. Thanks, -Simon


___
Zope-web maillist  -  Zope-web@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web