[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: Here's what I'd like to see: 1. Separate server definition from application definition. They are way too interwoven now. I'd like to see us move to Paste Deploy (or something based on the framework it defines). Is this the seperation of what objects are being served from

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: Does grok have one of these? I suspect so. No, it doesn't. grok's just a package that a) provides baseclasses for components b) configuration directives that you use in your Python code c) a configuration mechanism that, instead of parsing a configuration file like

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On 1/21/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Runyan and Sidnei Da Silva created one of the earliest Zope 3 applications using SQL Objects. I don't remember the name of their application or what it's status is. Maybe they'll chime in or you can ask them. That

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Jim Fulton
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Here's what I'd like to see: 1. Separate server definition from application definition. They are way too interwoven now. I'd like to see us move to Paste Deploy (or something based on the framework it defines). Is this the seperation of

[Zope3-dev] Form features... or bugs?

2007-01-22 Thread Michael Bernstein
I recently spent about an hour struggling with an Interface schema used to construct the usual add and edit forms. 1) On a Text or SourceText field (and presumably others, but I haven't checked), if you set both a 'default' and a 'missing_value' (that are identical), the add form does not

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-1-22 13:51 +0100: ... I think the ZConfig argument was largely due to misunderstandings. I would be surprised if people really cared whether to Zope used ConfigParser or ZConfig (except Fred, perhaps ;)) And, as so often, me. -- Dieter

[Zope3-dev] View permissions

2007-01-22 Thread Albertas Agejevas
Hi all, Unpleasant things happen when views are security wrapped. Widgets refuse to work, because they are registered as views, and get a custom secuity checker (in zope.app.component.metaconfigure.view). The default view custom checker only protects '__call__', leaves all other attributes

Re: [Zope3-dev] View permissions

2007-01-22 Thread Jim Fulton
Albertas Agejevas wrote: Hi all, Unpleasant things happen when views are security wrapped. Widgets refuse to work, because they are registered as views, and get a custom secuity checker (in zope.app.component.metaconfigure.view). The default view custom checker only protects '__call__',

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-1-22 13:51 +0100: ... I think the ZConfig argument was largely due to misunderstandings. I would be surprised if people really cared whether to Zope used ConfigParser or ZConfig (except Fred, perhaps ;)) And, as so often, me. Me

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2007-01-22 Thread Chris Withers
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: (Note that in my original reply to ChrisW, I tried to be pragmatic. Of course, if ChrisW has the resources to go into this refactoring, by all means, let's do it). No resources, sorry :-( Just a desire to see this done right :-S The pragmatic approach is just