Re: [Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-3-2 18:44 +0100: ... I worry about losing brands we've worked on hard to establish. While many people do not understand the difference between Zope 2 and Zope 3, many others have heard about Zope 3 and they know it is not Zope 2. I do not understand the loss of

Re: [Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-3-2 20:39 +0100: ... 2. Zope3 may also get slightly streamlined, so that Zope3 is what is needed to run Zope2 but not more. That means that Zope3 would lose the ZMI. I would consider this a severe loss. The ZMI provides menu guided operations. This is much easier

Re: [Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 3/3/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS renames its core technologies every few years (at least) Eh... no they don't. It's been called MS Windows, and MS Office and the like for like 15-20 years now. :-) In fact I can't think of any case where Microsoft have renamed any

[Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I've been thinking a lot about the various things said in the vision discussion. Lots of people said things I agree with, but other things were said that make me worry a lot (losing brand-identity and useful names), and so on. Here I sketch out some of my thoughts. Reading back

Re: [Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm so confused by all the names and stuff that I find it hard to answer to what somebody is saying, so I will just state *my* vision of the future. Technology-wise: 1. Zope2 uses more and more of Zope3s technologies. Anything that can be merged gets merged. That means security, pagetemplates

Re: [Zope3-dev] visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 March 2006 14:39, Lennart Regebro wrote: 4. We develop TTW development tools for Zope3. I think me and Jim both agree we should have these. I think me and Jim has a completely different vision of what they should be. :) Note that WebDev is *a* RD project aimed at discovering the