Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 2/28/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the other major point is the door #2 proposal takes pressure
 off of Zope3:  under that regime, Zope3 does not need to grow all the
 features present in Zope2, which door #1 *does* imply.

I still would like to know wich these missing features are. Unless
it's TTW development, which, as mentioned, I think should be viewed as
a separate set of packages. Most Zope3 developers do not want or need
it.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Martijn Faassen

Tres Seaver wrote:
[snip]

In this vision, the Zope 3 project should stay where it is and push
things forward. That doesn't mean Five should be ignored by Zope 3
developers, but it should be compartmentalized in people's minds. Zope 3
does innovation, Five does integration, and then the big codebases can
move forward using both.
 
I think the other major point is the door #2 proposal takes pressure

off of Zope3:  under that regime, Zope3 does not need to grow all the
features present in Zope2, which door #1 *does* imply.


What I'm confused about is that we've already solidly gone through door 
#2 a while ago. Since we went through door #1 once people started 
developing pure Zope 3 applications, I don't see the either-or of these 
visions.


Sure, there is pressure on Zope 3 for features that aren't there yet. 
Overall I think that's good. The pressure shouldn't be artificial and 
just a point by point comparison with Zope 2, but if actual projects 
need a feature in Zope 3 they can start building it and that's only good.


What is new here? What is the concrete proposal besides juggling around 
names confusing everybody?


Regards,

Martijn
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