Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-31 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Winkler wrote: import this The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters Ah, never seen that before ;-) while ZCML uses its own style with minimal nesting, many attributes, and many namespaces. What? Insanity ;-) import this (snip) Flat is better than nested. (snip) Namespaces are one honking

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-30 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: +1 to that. I think Chris doesn't really believe in the Second Law of Python (according to the prophet Peters). Urm, can you refresh for someone with hazy knowledge of PSU epistles? Shane Hathaway wrote: No, Chris just doesn't like XML namespaces. You can still have

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-30 Thread cstrong
I remember that Jim once presented two XML samples and asked which one was more readable. I preferred many elements over many attributes. He preferred the opposite. I thought he was crazy, and as I recall, he thought I was crazy, too. :-) Elements vs Attributes is an age old debate. Some

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-30 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:36:12PM +, Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: +1 to that. I think Chris doesn't really believe in the Second Law of Python (according to the prophet Peters). Urm, can you refresh for someone with hazy knowledge of PSU epistles? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

[Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-28 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:02:19PM +, Chris Withers wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | | My original

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-27 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-1-27 13:21 +0100: ... Five actually adds a 'five' namespace, which I think is very useful -- it clearly marks which directives are only there for Zope 2 and thus you cannot expect them to work in Zope 3. Not having namespaces would make this a lot harder to mark,

[Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-26 Thread Florent Guillaume
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 06:30:02AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | | There are a bunch of issues to be resolved, like the fact that it's | | not possible to access the initial ZConfig options

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Florent Guillaume wrote at 2006-1-26 12:57 +0100: ... I thought Tres had added to ZConfig the possibility to have arbitrary key/values for arbitrary additional products. Or was this only in the context of Zope 2 ? It is essentially the %import package extension of ZConfig. It allows package to