[Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
Christian Theune wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 09:33 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: 'Refresh' should be called 'Reset' -- in fact resetting the form contents to the original loaded values ('Reset' is also the buttons default value displayed in the browser) Well. That's not what the button currently does. When I click on it, it does a page reload. A form reset does this without. Then, I also don't see many 'reset' buttons nowadays. And I don't miss them. After all, I'm not sure in which order I would want them. Should have been resolved as by this Issue http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/467 Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
Hi, On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 09:39 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Christian Theune wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 09:33 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: 'Refresh' should be called 'Reset' -- in fact resetting the form contents to the original loaded values ('Reset' is also the buttons default value displayed in the browser) Well. That's not what the button currently does. When I click on it, it does a page reload. A form reset does this without. Then, I also don't see many 'reset' buttons nowadays. And I don't miss them. After all, I'm not sure in which order I would want them. Should have been resolved as by this Issue http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/467 A grep through the src/ directory lists me only one occurance where it was changed to 'reset': app/dublincore/browser/edit.pt Whereas quite some more have the old behaviour: app/demo/widget/browser/popup.pt:65: input type=submit value=Refresh app/zptpage/browser/inlinecode.pt:64: input type=submit value=Refresh app/schemacontent/browser/permission_edit.pt:33: input type=submit value=Refresh app/workflow/stateful/browser/definition_edit.pt:24: input type=submit value=Refresh app/workflow/stateful/browser/definition_edit.pt:51: input type=submit value=Refresh app/workflow/stateful/browser/instance_manage.pt:74: input type=submit value=Refresh app/pythonpage/edit.pt:70: input type=submit value=Refresh app/error/browser/error.pt:53: input type=submit name=submit value=Refresh app/apidoc/browser/prefIndex.pt:118: input type=submit value=Refresh app/preference/index.pt:14: input type=submit value=Refresh app/preference/edit.pt:112: input type=submit value=Refresh app/component/browser/editregistration.pt:48: input type=submit name=refresh_submit value=Refresh app/form/browser/edit.pt:53: input type=submit value=Refresh Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, is there a chance we can get rid of the Refresh button on the standard forms? Every now and then, I hit the wrong one. And I do not see a clear need for the refresh. +1 on getting rid of the refresh button. What others say about reset (refresh?) buttons: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/2416.html http://www.joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter12.html#h5-1380 Tonico ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:39:41 -0800, Michael Haubenwallner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Theune wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 09:33 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: 'Refresh' should be called 'Reset' -- in fact resetting the form contents to the original loaded values ('Reset' is also the buttons default value displayed in the browser) Well. That's not what the button currently does. When I click on it, it does a page reload. A form reset does this without. Then, I also don't see many 'reset' buttons nowadays. And I don't miss them. After all, I'm not sure in which order I would want them. Should have been resolved as by this Issue http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/467 Good peoples! Please don't include the Reset functionality in HTML forms. It is absolutely useless, and is considered one of the classic usability mistakes. Just say no, kids! Seriously. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/2416.html -- _ Alexander Limi · Chief Architect · Plone Solutions · Norway Consulting · Training · Development · http://www.plonesolutions.com _ Plone Co-Founder · http://plone.org · Connecting Content Plone Foundation · http://plone.org/foundation · Protecting Plone ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:58:02 -, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't include the Reset functionality in HTML forms. It is absolutely useless, and is considered one of the classic usability mistakes. Just say no, kids! Agreed. Hands up anyone who ever clicked one? Martin -- (muted) ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 20:47 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:58:02 -, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't include the Reset functionality in HTML forms. It is absolutely useless, and is considered one of the classic usability mistakes. Just say no, kids! Agreed. Hands up anyone who ever clicked one? I did. That's why I'm posting. I had to go through that form again. :) -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Refresh / Change-Buttons
On 1/27/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did. That's why I'm posting. I had to go through that form again. :) Even worse, those are the first submit button for many pages, so that's what gets submitted when you hit Enter. That's even easier to do than clicking the button itself. +1 to remove the sucka's. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com There is no wealth but life. --John Ruskin ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com