Re: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 inthe sourcecoderepository
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Jim [...] Roger Ineichen wrote: ... And please stop telling that there will be a migration path for somthing. Please stop saying that there won't be. > I guess there will never be such a path. I guess differently. Ok, accepted From now on I say, ask Jim ;-) > Perhaps custom products can be rewriten based on Zope3 libraries, but a real migration path like known from other software will never be supported. Normaly Zope2 based projects are to highly customized and this will make it impossible for a clear migration path. Perhaps this will be different for standard use of a Plone or Silva. Butdo you really know somebody where is using Plone or Silva out of the box? I'm convinced that there will be a migration path. I don't know if it will be painless or automatic. It may take the form of Zope 2's lower-level infrastructure being replaced by Zope 3's. I think this is entirely possible and would constitute a real migration to Zope 3. It's very possible that there will be a Zope 2 in the future that supports Zope 2 paradigms and Zope 3 paradigms simultaneously. This would look very different from many "pure" Zope 3 applications, but perhaps no more different than a number of sucessful Zope 3 applications such as Schooltool and applications being built by Canonical. Yes, I know that this is possible. But are you really proposing to start a project like this? Or do you mean Five is going or should go in this direction? It (or Zope 2 development in general, which is becoming indistinguishable from Five) is going in this direction. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
RE: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 inthe sourcecoderepository
Hi Jim [...] > > Roger Ineichen wrote: > ... > > And please stop telling that there will be a migration path > > for somthing. > > Please stop saying that there won't be. > > > I guess there will never be such a path. > > I guess differently. Ok, accepted >From now on I say, ask Jim ;-) > > Perhaps > > custom products can be rewriten based on Zope3 libraries, but a real > > migration path like known from other software will never be > supported. > > Normaly Zope2 based projects are to highly customized and this will > > make it impossible for a clear migration path. Perhaps this will be > > different for standard use of a Plone or Silva. Butdo you > really know > > somebody where is using Plone or Silva out of the box? > > I'm convinced that there will be a migration path. I don't know if it > will be painless or automatic. > > It may take the form of Zope 2's lower-level infrastructure > being replaced > by Zope 3's. I think this is entirely possible and would constitute a > real migration to Zope 3. It's very possible that there will be a > Zope 2 in the future that supports Zope 2 paradigms and Zope 3 > paradigms simultaneously. This would look very different from many > "pure" Zope 3 applications, but perhaps no more different than a > number of sucessful Zope 3 applications such as Schooltool > and applications > being built by Canonical. Yes, I know that this is possible. But are you really proposing to start a project like this? Or do you mean Five is going or should go in this direction? Regards Roger Ineichen > Jim > > -- > Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! > CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org > Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org > ___ > Zope3-dev mailing list > Zope3-dev@zope.org > Unsub: > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/dev%40projekt01.ch > > ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com