Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:08, Jim Fulton wrote:
  I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm  
  *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)
 
  Thoughts?
 
 I actually use that string all the time to determine who worked on the file 
 last and when the work was done. I find it inconvenient to make another SVN 
 call to get this information.

Their major downside is that they cause a lot of polution when diffing
trees.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Fred Drake

On 7/4/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm
*not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)


+1

These have never proved anything more than distractions.  Avoiding
them in the future is the way to go.  Removing them opportunistically
(as modules get touched anyway) would be welcome gardening of the
codebase.


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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Gary Poster


On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:



I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that  
we could create tools that determined run-time version  
information.  Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit  
difficult, as it doesn't update this information by default.


I think that, with eggs, this isn't needed any more.  To find  
versions being used, we just need to print the working set, which  
lists the distributions used, with their versions.


I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that  
I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)


Thoughts?


+1

(not been very good at adding them lately :-) )

Gary

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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Benji York

Jim Fulton wrote:
I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm  
*not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)


+1
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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Dmitry Vasiliev

Jim Fulton wrote:
I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm 
*not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)


Thoughts?


+1

(Moreover Bazaar for example doesn't support this keywords yet.)

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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Baiju M

Jim Fulton wrote:


 I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that
 we could create tools that determined run-time version information.
 Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it
 doesn't update this information by default.


If you add the following lines to svn configuration (~/.subversion/config) ,
all new Python files will get that property.

[miscellany]
enable-auto-props = yes
[auto-props]
*.py = svn:keywords=Id # enable id for Python files

Regards,
Baiju M


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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:08, Jim Fulton wrote:
 I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm  
 *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)

 Thoughts?

I actually use that string all the time to determine who worked on the file 
last and when the work was done. I find it inconvenient to make another SVN 
call to get this information.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Jim Fulton


On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Baiju M wrote:


Jim Fulton wrote:


 I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that
 we could create tools that determined run-time version information.
 Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it
 doesn't update this information by default.


If you add the following lines to svn configuration (~/.subversion/ 
config) ,

all new Python files will get that property.

[miscellany]
enable-auto-props = yes
[auto-props]
*.py = svn:keywords=Id # enable id for Python files


Right. Many of us have that, but it's hard to get everyone to set  
that up on every machine they use.


Jim

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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
+1

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Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Fred Drake

On 7/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Right. Many of us have that, but it's hard to get everyone to set
that up on every machine they use.


More importantly, because that's a global setting for the Subversion
client, instead of something retrieved from the server, setting it
affects all projects you work on, even though the policies may
conflict.


 -Fred

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