Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Withers
Marius Gedminas wrote: * distros splitting the Python profiler into a separate package due to licencing problems, with a "helpful" stub that prints an informational message (go apt-get install python-profiler) instead of raising ImportError. On this one, I raised it with the packa

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 22.05.2007, 20:56 +0300 schrieb Marius Gedminas: > Is there any documentation about how to extract the Python level stack > trace when you've attached to a Python program at C level with gdb? > (One of my fantasies (i.e. projects I'll never find the time to work on) > is addin

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Dieter Maurer
Marius Gedminas wrote at 2007-5-22 14:18 +0300: > ... >seem to be minor inconveniences rather than show-stoppers to me. I'd >love to hear real horror stories. I do not have horror stories but dislike system pythons because they tend to have debugging symbols stripped. Unfortunately, Zope applica

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 07:45:09PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote at 2007-5-22 14:18 +0300: > > ... > >seem to be minor inconveniences rather than show-stoppers to me. I'd > >love to hear real horror stories. > > I do not have horror stories but dislike system pythons because

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:44:47AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: > >Come again? Using the system python when developing has always been > >fine; > > No. It has never been fine for any aspect of development. If you > develop with your system Pytho

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for various installations. Are you maybe using your system Python? G

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-20 Thread Martijn Pieters
On 5/21/07, Gary Poster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for various installations. Are you maybe using your system Python? Generally not advised for development work...try a stand