Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi garz > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > > hi roger, > > thanks again. :) sry for writing so much nonsense and dont > getting my point clearly described. didnt want to waste your > time and i try to improve on that. > > > Rog

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-16 Thread garz
hi roger, thanks again. :) sry for writing so much nonsense and dont getting my point clearly described. didnt want to waste your time and i try to improve on that. Roger Ineichen wrote: > Fields are a fundamental part of > our concept and are the component which allows you to define > things

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi garz Sorry I don't have to much time for answer all your questions very well but let me give some hints. > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > > hey roger, > > thank you for your answers. really appreciated. :) > > @hook: i und

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-15 Thread garz
hey roger, thank you for your answers. really appreciated. :) @hook: i understand now, the applyChanges-method isnt a hook, its just a function so that the apply-thing can be used alone too. a hook is, as far as i understood this concept, a point of extensibility or variation. both isnt possible

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-14 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi garz > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > > hey roger, > > how does this pdf-thing look like? when the form is rendered, > is there called an adapter for IPageTemplate? or the question > differently posed, do you use the original forms

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-14 Thread garz
hey roger, how does this pdf-thing look like? when the form is rendered, is there called an adapter for IPageTemplate? or the question differently posed, do you use the original forms render-method? and how does the form respectivly the fieldwidgets-manager knows that it is now supposed to render

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-09 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 08 Oktober 2008 17:14:35 schrieb Tim Cook: > (Thanks Roger and Adam for your earlier replies.) > > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:59 +0200, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: > > Moreover, z3c.form is complex, but it isn't hard if one knows what to > > do/how to do - which leads me back to my WIKI id

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-09 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Donnerstag 09 Oktober 2008 04:24:25 schrieb garz: > thx for your replies! now i have new stuff to think about. :) > > > Can you give an example what you can't do with z3c.form? > i think z3c.form is in respect of what can be done with it general enough. > i can realize what i want to do with it

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread garz
thx for your replies! now i have new stuff to think about. :) Can you give an example what you can't do with z3c.form? i think z3c.form is in respect of what can be done with it general enough. i can realize what i want to do with it plus i know how to do it. it isnt that i dont understand z3c.

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Tim Cook
(Thanks Roger and Adam for your earlier replies.) On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:59 +0200, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: > Moreover, z3c.form is complex, but it isn't hard if one knows what to do/how > to do - which leads me back to my WIKI idea... Hermann, This is a very good point. For those of us

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 08 Oktober 2008 16:28:07 schrieb Roger Ineichen: > Hi Hermann > > > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > [...] > > So, I think two solutions to that could be: > > > > - Improve the documentation (however, I'm unsure in

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Hermann > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package [...] > I think I'm not the only one here, I read quite often about > similar problems in this list here, so this is my resumee: > > - z3c.form is complex > - It's not obvious how to imp

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Tim > Betreff: Re: AW: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 15:32 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: > > > > > > What is the proposed functionality of ObjectWidget? > > > > The ObjectWidget is a widget for an IObject field

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:52:20 PM, you wrote: TC> I am assuming, though haven't tried, that I can specify an interface TC> that is maybe 3,4 or more steps through Object attributes and have the TC> correct widget (text, textline, etc.) render? It should, but actually those 3,4 l

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 15:32 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: > > > > What is the proposed functionality of ObjectWidget? > > The ObjectWidget is a widget for an IObject field. > This field is used for attributes which provide a own > schema and hold a refenece to a pyton instance > providing this sc

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hey Roger, Yes, you're right, thanks for the explanation. Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:32:04 PM, you wrote: RI> Hi Tim, Adam >> Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package >> >> On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 06:25 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: >> &

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Tim, Adam > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 06:25 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: > > > Adam Groszer is working on a ObjectWidget implementation. > > What is the proposed functionality of ObjectWidget? The ObjectW

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 06:25 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: > Adam Groszer is working on a ObjectWidget implementation. What is the proposed functionality of ObjectWidget? Thanks, Tim -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research & Development Services LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.co

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-08 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 08 Oktober 2008 01:11:24 schrieb garz: > hey, > > while using z3c.form-package i reach its limits here and there. thats why i > started to think about how a more general implemention should look like. my > intention of writing this is that i want to know what you are thinking > about it

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Aspeli
garz wrote: > hey, > > while using z3c.form-package i reach its limits here and there. thats why i > started to think about how a more general implemention should look like. A *more* general z3c.form sounds like a frightening prospect. :-) Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`,

Re: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-07 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Garz > Betreff: [Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package > > > hey, > > while using z3c.form-package i reach its limits here and > there. thats why i started to think about how a more general > implemention should look like. my intention of writing this >

[Zope3-Users] thoughts about z3c.form-package

2008-10-07 Thread garz
hey, while using z3c.form-package i reach its limits here and there. thats why i started to think about how a more general implemention should look like. my intention of writing this is that i want to know what you are thinking about it and i want to know the design-decisions that led to the diff