Re : [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3 SSL

2006-08-24 Thread Stéphane Brault
Thanks all for your answers.
 When I use twisted ssl by commenting the 8080 server and uncommenting the ssl 
server it seems to work. But I can't seem to be able to use apache as a proxy.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Stéphane

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Objet : [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3 SSL

Stéphane Brault wrote:
 Hi,
  I need to run my site  with SSL. I don't know how to use SSL 
  with Zope 3 or if I should run zope behind apache 2, and if so
  how. Any hint ?

Most people have suggestd to run Zope behind Apache. This is certainly a
very common way of doing it.

You can also use twisted's built-in SSL support and run Zope 3 directly
with SSL support. See the comments in zope.conf.

Philipp

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[Zope3-Users] New open-sourced Zope Corporation packages

2006-08-24 Thread Gary Poster
Zope Corporation is happy to announce a number of newly open-sourced  
packages.  All are in use, in development, or both.


We release these packages in the strong hope that others will  
contribute to them, from maintenance through extension to  
refactoring.  The maintainers are effectively zope3-dev@zope.org.   
Since we rely on them, ZC will generally do some of those tasks  
ourselves; and we will have a strong stake in making sure that their  
development continues to support our internal needs.


These packages are tested two or more times a day against the Zope 3  
trunk.  We hope to make 3.3 branches when 3.3 is released.  In  
several cases, these will need a newer version of zope.testing than  
the one shipped with Zope 3.3, but otherwise we expect them to work  
in Zope 3.3 without too much tweaking.


As we move our internal projects to zc.buildout, these projects will  
gain eggs, PyPI registration, and thus better documentation of their  
dependencies over the next weeks and months.


Here are quick lists of the new packages, with summaries and status  
notes.  Each project can be found on http://svn.zope.org/ with the  
given name, such as http://svn.zope.org/zc.comment/;.  The actual  
code is found in trunk/src/zc/[package], such as http://svn.zope.org/ 
zc.comment/trunk/src/zc/comment/.  The current svn-only distribution  
means that the code is currently largely in the realm of experienced  
Zope developers.  The egg and PyPI work mentioned above will  
hopefully lower the bar when it is done.


First, here are the packages that are largely stable and that we are  
using in active projects.


- zc.comment
  An annotations-based drop-in aspect (i.e, no change to a class is  
necessary) that gives objects a comments tab.  In production;  
maintenance mode.


- zc.copy
  A pluggable `copy` function, replacing the one in zope.location;  
and an ObjectCopier that uses it.  This allows object copies to be  
cleansed efficiently.  In use by active projects; maintenance mode.


- zc.freeze
  A way to spell freeze requests, and a few implementations and  
approaches.  In use by active projects; maintenance mode.


- zc.index
  Text extraction for XML, HTML, Word, OO, PDF, and RTF files, for  
the purpose of indexing.  In production; maintenance mode.


- zc.notification
  Simple user notification framework.  Currently includes email  
notification, with email templating.  Somewhat unstable API (need to  
review for scalability).  In use by active projects; maintenance  
mode, though we would like to have time to return to it.


- zc.objectlog
  TTW log with automatic changesets.  In production; maintenance mode.

- zc.preview
  File previews based on zope.mimetype interfaces.  Currently  
somewhat minimal.  In production; maintenance mode, though we would  
like to have time to return to it.


- zc.security
  Simple user search.  Not a big release, but a dependency for some  
packages such as the previously released zc.sharing.  (Already  
released, but this is the first announcement.)  In production;  
maintenance mode.


- zc.selenium
  A way to write selenium tests in Python rather than in HTML  
tables, including a way to push and pop ZODB state from within  
selenium.  In use; maintenance mode.


- zc.tokenpolicy
  A small variation on the zc.sharing policy that makes the security  
policy enforce zope.locking tokens.  Useful on its own and as an  
example of enforcing the pure-policy zope.locking tokens.  In use by  
active projects; maintenance mode.


- zc.vault
  A subversion-like repository stored in the ZODB, complex but  
powerful and useful for many low-level tasks.  In use by active  
projects; maintenance mode for core, with occasional development of  
add-ons.


- zc.winauth
  A pluggable authentication plugin for interacting with Windows  
authentication.  In production; maintenance mode.


- zope.html
  A zope form widget for HTML, using FCKEditor (thanks to Roger  
Ineichen for his version, from which he graciously helped us learn).   
In production; maintenance mode.


Second, the following three packages are newly added and under  
development.  We will make additional announcements as they become  
more stable.


- zc.async
  Heir to Zope 2 zasync, and learning from its successes and  
failures, this supports asynchronous application calls, particularly  
as driven by end users in real-time.  Alpha, but working in tests.


- zc.set
  A persistent object akin to the persistent list and persistent  
mapping classes in the persistent package, but with a standard Python  
set API.  (Note this has the same limitations as the persistent  
mapping and list classes--changing the contents means the whole set  
needs to be rewritten to the database, not just buckets as with BTree  
sets.)  Beta.


- zc.twist
  A partial for making ZODB calls from a Twisted reactor.  Beta, but  
currently relies on some ZODB internals.


Also note that we have a new zc.site package that is broken 

Re: [Zope3-Users] New open-sourced Zope Corporation packages

2006-08-24 Thread Martijn Faassen

Gary Poster wrote:
Zope Corporation is happy to announce a number of newly open-sourced 
packages.  All are in use, in development, or both.

[snip long list]

Awesome! And thanks for this announcement! And here Infrae's with only 3 
hurry packages last year - I feel totally inadequate. :)


Echoing some of the recent discussions, we should really focus on 
getting a web presence for these. Just a web page with some minimal 
information would already be very valuable. Anyway, that's just a note 
to myself - it might be a next project to tackle after we get a better 
Zope Foundation website, we'll see.


Regards,

Martijn
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Re: [Zope3-Users] New open-sourced Zope Corporation packages

2006-08-24 Thread Gary Poster


On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Gary Poster wrote:
Zope Corporation is happy to announce a number of newly open- 
sourced packages.  All are in use, in development, or both.

[snip long list]

Awesome! And thanks for this announcement! And here Infrae's with  
only 3 hurry packages last year - I feel totally inadequate. :)


I think your lxml work gets you a decent amount of credit ;-)

Echoing some of the recent discussions, we should really focus on  
getting a web presence for these. Just a web page with some minimal  
information would already be very valuable. Anyway, that's just a  
note to myself - it might be a next project to tackle after we get  
a better Zope Foundation website, we'll see.


Agreed generally.  We're hopeful that PyPI registrations (as I  
mentioned we hope to provide soon) will provide some of this.   
Perhaps Stephan's initiative will also bear fruit.


Gary
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[Zope3-Users] String Encoding problems in Skin

2006-08-24 Thread Keith Bolton



 
Objects containing a string attribute that have been 'copied/pasted' from some 
other application such as MS Office suite or email will raise an encoding error 
when attempting to be viewed in a Skin. The encoding issue is not a 
problem however when being viewed in the ZMI. Does anyone have a 
suggestion on why viewing the string in the ZMI is different than viewing in the 
Skin? And more importantly how to prevent the encoding error in the Skin, 
without resorting to replacing the character or deleting it.

Much appreciated 
everyone.

Thank 
you,

Keith 
Bolton

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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 24 August 2006 16:54, Benji York wrote:
 Stephan's ZSCP proposal suggests using the package name z3c for
 community packages.  IOW, packages that aren't part of a larger
 collection like lovely.*, zc.*, etc..  There are currently several z3c
 packages in existence.

 The zope3.org packages currently use the package name zorg.  I
 personally (and at least a couple other people feel the same way) like
 zorg better than z3c.  I'd like to propose that zorg become the name
 space package for otherwise homeless modules/packages.

 (In fairness, I'll note that Stephan likes z3c better, and that name is
 already in semi-wide-spread use).

Right, thus I am clearly -1. :-) (Wow, now I do not even have to argue myself 
anymore. ;-)

Note that we spent a lot of time coming up with this name and pretty much all 
the contributors to the namespace were involved in the discussion. Also, z3c 
does not try to be the holy grail of community work. It is just another 
namespace and I think this should be accepted. Zope Corp decided to use zc, 
Lovely Systems lovely and a bunch of us not representing a company decided 
to use z3c. So what's wrong with that? Should I create a foundation called 
Z3C to have the right get this namespace? Other people can feel free to work 
on another namespace. (BTW, I would without a thought change the working in 
the ZSCP document to be less asserting and globalizing.)

I wonder how Zope Corp. would feel if I would ask them to use zcorp, because 
zc stands for Zope Community?

BTW, I am not aggravated about the mail; I am just very tired of those 
pointless namespace discussions.

Regards.
Stephan
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CBU Physics  Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Fred Drake

On 8/24/06, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If zc were to become zope community, I'd be *totally* for it (but I
don't speak for ZC here, so that may not be cool with others, like say
Jim).  We'd either keep using zc under the new meaning, or switch to
something else.


z3c clearly stands for the Zope Zoftware Zystems Consortium, so
should be freely used by the Z3C's members according to the usage
rules established by that august body.  The rest of us shouldn't be
wasting time worrying about it.


I'm sorry.  It's off my chest now, so if this (mercifully) peters out
soon, we'll all be better off.


Indeed.


 -Fred

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[Zope3-Users] Re: z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Benji York wrote:
 Stephan's ZSCP proposal suggests using the package name z3c for
 community packages.  IOW, packages that aren't part of a larger
 collection like lovely.*, zc.*, etc..  There are currently several z3c
 packages in existence.
 
 The zope3.org packages currently use the package name zorg.  I
 personally (and at least a couple other people feel the same way) like
 zorg better than z3c.  I'd like to propose that zorg become the name
 space package for otherwise homeless modules/packages.

+1

z3c looks a bit like a retarded 'z3' or 'zc'.

 (In fairness, I'll note that Stephan likes z3c better, and that name is
 already in semi-wide-spread use).

Afaik, nothing has been released yet. Plus, changing the namesapce
shouldn't be that hard, simple search'n'replace should do it...

Philipp

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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 24 August 2006 16:57, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
  (In fairness, I'll note that Stephan likes z3c better, and that name is
  already in semi-wide-spread use).

 Afaik, nothing has been released yet. Plus, changing the namesapce
 shouldn't be that hard, simple search'n'replace should do it...

We have plenty of internal releases. Not every development is visible to the 
world. Just because an egg does not exist, does not mean it has not been 
informally released or used in a released form internally.

Regards,
Stephan
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CBU Physics  Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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[Zope3-Users] Re: z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Thursday 24 August 2006 16:54, Benji York wrote:
 Stephan's ZSCP proposal suggests using the package name z3c for
 community packages.  IOW, packages that aren't part of a larger
 collection like lovely.*, zc.*, etc..  There are currently several z3c
 packages in existence.

 The zope3.org packages currently use the package name zorg.  I
 personally (and at least a couple other people feel the same way) like
 zorg better than z3c.  I'd like to propose that zorg become the name
 space package for otherwise homeless modules/packages.

 (In fairness, I'll note that Stephan likes z3c better, and that name is
 already in semi-wide-spread use).
 
 Right, thus I am clearly -1. :-) (Wow, now I do not even have to argue myself 
 anymore. ;-)
 
 Note that we spent a lot of time coming up with this name and pretty much all 
 the contributors to the namespace were involved in the discussion. Also, z3c 
 does not try to be the holy grail of community work. It is just another 
 namespace and I think this should be accepted. Zope Corp decided to use zc, 
 Lovely Systems lovely and a bunch of us not representing a company decided 
 to use z3c. So what's wrong with that? Should I create a foundation called 
 Z3C to have the right get this namespace? Other people can feel free to work 
 on another namespace. (BTW, I would without a thought change the working in 
 the ZSCP document to be less asserting and globalizing.)
 
 I wonder how Zope Corp. would feel if I would ask them to use zcorp, because 
 zc stands for Zope Community?
 
 BTW, I am not aggravated about the mail; I am just very tired of those 
 pointless namespace discussions.

Yeah, I see your point. We can't make you choose a particular namespace.
But it's always good to set good examples. I think Benji and I are not
the only ones to find that z3c is disturbing to read next to zc, for
example.

One thing you have to acknowledge is that svn.zope.org is community
territory. It's not just a playground. I think we eventually want to
enforce *some* rules (e.g. adding stuff to the 'zope' namespace might
need blessing, etc.). One thing that I'm definitely disappointed of is
that some z3c packages just ignore svn.zope.org's common repository
layout (sandbox vs. trunk). I've mentioned that before, but nobody who's
active in z3c responded nor did anything.

Philipp
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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] z3c vs. the zorg

2006-08-24 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:
Right, thus I am clearly -1. :-) (Wow, now I do not even have to argue myself 
anymore. ;-)


:)

Note that we spent a lot of time coming up with this name and pretty much all 
the contributors to the namespace were involved in the discussion.


Sorry.


Zope Corp decided to use zc,
Lovely Systems lovely and a bunch of us not representing a company decided 
to use z3c. So what's wrong with that?


I totally support your prerogative to name your packages whatever you 
want (within reason).  My main thought are about long-term aesthetics. 
A hard to defend cause, I admit.


 (BTW, I would without a thought change the working in
 the ZSCP document to be less asserting and globalizing.)

I wouldn't mind that.

I wonder how Zope Corp. would feel if I would ask them to use zcorp, because 
zc stands for Zope Community?


If zc were to become zope community, I'd be *totally* for it (but I 
don't speak for ZC here, so that may not be cool with others, like say 
Jim).  We'd either keep using zc under the new meaning, or switch to 
something else.


BTW, I am not aggravated about the mail; I am just very tired of those 
pointless namespace discussions.


I'm sorry.  It's off my chest now, so if this (mercifully) peters out 
soon, we'll all be better off.

--
Benji York
Senior Software Engineer
Zope Corporation
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