Re: [Zope3-Users] Variables in reStructuredText

2007-03-06 Thread Klaus Bremer

Just as an idea: use the python string modul for substitution.
Write in ReST:

.. figure:: path/to/image

   $title

   or

   ${caption}

and in your python code:

theTitle = myPhoto.getTitle()
theCaption = myPhoto.getCaption()
theText = GetTheRestructuredTextFromMyData(...)
theText = string.Template(theText).safe_substitute(theTitle, theCaption)

Regards
Klaus


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am: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:00:04 +0400
von: Yann VOTE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Hello,
>
>Is there a way to access attributes from a reStructuredText-rendered
>widget ?
>
>More precisely:
>
>I have a IPhoto schema which extend IImage. The fields are 'contentType'
>and 'data' from IImage, and 'title' and 'caption' which are specific to
>IPhoto. These last two fields are effectively used elsewhere in the
>application, in some page template.
>
>But now I want to show an image wraped into some reStructuredText,
>together with its title and caption. Something like the following in a
>text widget:
>
>.. figure:: path/to/image
>
>   title
>
>   caption
>
>But I can't find out how to access the title and caption attributes. Is
>this possible ? Is there another way to achieve this ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Yann
>
>   
>
>   
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Design question (object or interface for category implementation?)

2007-03-06 Thread Bernd Dorn


On 07.03.2007, at 01:32, Christophe Combelles wrote:


Bernd Dorn a écrit :

On 06.03.2007, at 18:54, Christophe Combelles wrote:

Hi,

I'm playing again with the notion of categories of objects.

I have two main goals:
-
1) I must let the user choose the category of an object added to  
the zodb. For this, I must be able to retrieve the list of  
categories and present them in a form field managed by a  
vocabulary (or in a different manner).

2) I must have different behaviours for categorized objects:
objects of different categories would have different views,  
different addMenuItems (if they are containers), etc.


the first requirement would tell me to define categories as  
objects, while the second one would tell me to define them as  
interfaces.


The possible solutions I see:


1) The simplest solution is to store the categories as text  
strings into the annotations of the object. So categories  
actually are just tags.


2) The second solution is to do the same, but replace text  
strings with category objects, that implement ICategory. And  
categories can be stored separately in a category container, or  
in a registered utility that gives the list of available  
categories. This is a bit better, but this way I don't know how  
to easily let my categorized objects behave differently according  
to their categories.


3) The third solution is to define categories as interfaces  
extending ICategory. I can retrieve the list of categories with  
ICategory.dependents
But to present them in a form, I must have a pretty name for each  
interface. Should I store them in a Tagged Value?


4) The fourth solution I see, is to define an interface type,  
ICategoryType, extending IInterface just like IContentType. Then  
my categories would be interfaces whose type is ICategoryType.  
But with IContentType, is there a way to retrieve the list of all  
available content types?
imho 4) is the best solution, just take a look at zope.app.content  
to see how to get the vocabulary and the inspection implementation  
of objects
you can then set the interface on objects by using  
zope.interface.alsoProvides


But with 4), I guess I won't be able to assign two categories onto  
an object,

An object can have only one ContentType


this is not true an object can implement many interfaces so why  
shouldnt it be possible to assign many subclasses of IInterface (or  
did i m iss something?), use alsoProvides, not directlyProvides




I feel that 3) is easier, but I don't know how to assign an  
retrieve a display name to interfaces.


A real example is the following:
---

I want to define objects that represent Companies.
A company can be either a client, or a provider, or both,
or in the future it could be of another type.

When the user creates a company, it must choose "client",  
"provider", or both.

The choice would assign a different interface to the object:
IClient, or IProvider, and this would lead to different views for  
these objects.


So "client" and "provider" are categories of companies.

So I would tend to have:

class ICompany(Interface)

class IClient(ICompany)

class IProvider(ICompany)

This is simple, but now how do I assign a name to these interface,  
so that the user will choose between "Client" and "Provider", and  
not between "IClient" and "IProvider"?
Is it feasible with Tagged Value ?  Or with the "name" attribute in  
the zope:interface ZCML declaration?


use the name attribute, skins in zope work the same way






regards, Bernd
Do you have some advice on the subject?  Am I asking the wrong  
questions? Is there an obvious solution I've not seen? Am I going  
too far and should I rather keep it simple and stupid?



regards,
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[Zope3-Users] Variables in reStructuredText

2007-03-06 Thread Yann VOTE
Hello,

Is there a way to access attributes from a reStructuredText-rendered
widget ?

More precisely:

I have a IPhoto schema which extend IImage. The fields are 'contentType'
and 'data' from IImage, and 'title' and 'caption' which are specific to
IPhoto. These last two fields are effectively used elsewhere in the
application, in some page template.

But now I want to show an image wraped into some reStructuredText,
together with its title and caption. Something like the following in a
text widget:

.. figure:: path/to/image

   title

   caption

But I can't find out how to access the title and caption attributes. Is
this possible ? Is there another way to achieve this ?

Thanks,

Yann





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Re: [Zope3-Users] Design question (object or interface for category implementation?)

2007-03-06 Thread Christophe Combelles

Bernd Dorn a écrit :


On 06.03.2007, at 18:54, Christophe Combelles wrote:


Hi,

I'm playing again with the notion of categories of objects.

I have two main goals:
-
1) I must let the user choose the category of an object added to the 
zodb. For this, I must be able to retrieve the list of categories and 
present them in a form field managed by a vocabulary (or in a 
different manner).

2) I must have different behaviours for categorized objects:
objects of different categories would have different views, different 
addMenuItems (if they are containers), etc.


the first requirement would tell me to define categories as objects, 
while the second one would tell me to define them as interfaces.


The possible solutions I see:


1) The simplest solution is to store the categories as text strings 
into the annotations of the object. So categories actually are just tags.


2) The second solution is to do the same, but replace text strings 
with category objects, that implement ICategory. And categories can be 
stored separately in a category container, or in a registered utility 
that gives the list of available categories. This is a bit better, but 
this way I don't know how to easily let my categorized objects behave 
differently according to their categories.


3) The third solution is to define categories as interfaces extending 
ICategory. I can retrieve the list of categories with 
ICategory.dependents
But to present them in a form, I must have a pretty name for each 
interface. Should I store them in a Tagged Value?


4) The fourth solution I see, is to define an interface type, 
ICategoryType, extending IInterface just like IContentType. Then my 
categories would be interfaces whose type is ICategoryType. But with 
IContentType, is there a way to retrieve the list of all available 
content types?


imho 4) is the best solution, just take a look at zope.app.content to 
see how to get the vocabulary and the inspection implementation of objects


you can then set the interface on objects by using 
zope.interface.alsoProvides


But with 4), I guess I won't be able to assign two categories onto an object,
An object can have only one ContentType

I feel that 3) is easier, but I don't know how to assign an retrieve a display 
name to interfaces.


A real example is the following:
---

I want to define objects that represent Companies.
A company can be either a client, or a provider, or both,
or in the future it could be of another type.

When the user creates a company, it must choose "client", "provider", or both.
The choice would assign a different interface to the object:
IClient, or IProvider, and this would lead to different views for these objects.

So "client" and "provider" are categories of companies.

So I would tend to have:

class ICompany(Interface)

class IClient(ICompany)

class IProvider(ICompany)

This is simple, but now how do I assign a name to these interface, so that the 
user will choose between "Client" and "Provider", and not between "IClient" and 
"IProvider"?
Is it feasible with Tagged Value ?  Or with the "name" attribute in the 
zope:interface ZCML declaration?






regards, Bernd

Do you have some advice on the subject?  Am I asking the wrong 
questions? Is there an obvious solution I've not seen? Am I going too 
far and should I rather keep it simple and stupid?



regards,
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Internationalisation of a viewlet property

2007-03-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 15:59, Thierry Florac wrote:
> My problem is simple : how can I get the "label" property to be
> correctly included by the I18n extraction machinery in my gettext ".pot"
> file ?

Write a sub-class. The option to add arbitrary attributes to the viwelet 
directive was never intended to be used for all possible attributes.

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[Zope3-Users] Internationalisation of a viewlet property

2007-03-06 Thread Thierry Florac
Hi,

I've created a custom viewlet to display a menu entries with the
following declaration :



My problem is simple : how can I get the "label" property to be
correctly included by the I18n extraction machinery in my gettext ".pot"
file ?

Thanks,
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Design question (object or interface for category implementation?)

2007-03-06 Thread Bernd Dorn


On 06.03.2007, at 18:54, Christophe Combelles wrote:


Hi,

I'm playing again with the notion of categories of objects.

I have two main goals:
-
1) I must let the user choose the category of an object added to  
the zodb. For this, I must be able to retrieve the list of  
categories and present them in a form field managed by a vocabulary  
(or in a different manner).

2) I must have different behaviours for categorized objects:
objects of different categories would have different views,  
different addMenuItems (if they are containers), etc.


the first requirement would tell me to define categories as  
objects, while the second one would tell me to define them as  
interfaces.


The possible solutions I see:


1) The simplest solution is to store the categories as text strings  
into the annotations of the object. So categories actually are just  
tags.


2) The second solution is to do the same, but replace text strings  
with category objects, that implement ICategory. And categories can  
be stored separately in a category container, or in a registered  
utility that gives the list of available categories. This is a bit  
better, but this way I don't know how to easily let my categorized  
objects behave differently according to their categories.


3) The third solution is to define categories as interfaces  
extending ICategory. I can retrieve the list of categories with  
ICategory.dependents
But to present them in a form, I must have a pretty name for each  
interface. Should I store them in a Tagged Value?


4) The fourth solution I see, is to define an interface type,  
ICategoryType, extending IInterface just like IContentType. Then my  
categories would be interfaces whose type is ICategoryType. But  
with IContentType, is there a way to retrieve the list of all  
available content types?


imho 4) is the best solution, just take a look at zope.app.content to  
see how to get the vocabulary and the inspection implementation of  
objects


you can then set the interface on objects by using  
zope.interface.alsoProvides


regards, Bernd

Do you have some advice on the subject?  Am I asking the wrong  
questions? Is there an obvious solution I've not seen? Am I going  
too far and should I rather keep it simple and stupid?



regards,
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[Zope3-Users] Design question (object or interface for category implementation?)

2007-03-06 Thread Christophe Combelles

Hi,

I'm playing again with the notion of categories of objects.

I have two main goals:
-
1) I must let the user choose the category of an object added to the zodb. For 
this, I must be able to retrieve the list of categories and present them in a 
form field managed by a vocabulary (or in a different manner).

2) I must have different behaviours for categorized objects:
objects of different categories would have different views, different 
addMenuItems (if they are containers), etc.


the first requirement would tell me to define categories as objects, while the 
second one would tell me to define them as interfaces.


The possible solutions I see:


1) The simplest solution is to store the categories as text strings into the 
annotations of the object. So categories actually are just tags.


2) The second solution is to do the same, but replace text strings with category 
objects, that implement ICategory. And categories can be stored separately in a 
category container, or in a registered utility that gives the list of available 
categories. This is a bit better, but this way I don't know how to easily let my 
categorized objects behave differently according to their categories.


3) The third solution is to define categories as interfaces extending ICategory. 
I can retrieve the list of categories with ICategory.dependents
But to present them in a form, I must have a pretty name for each interface. 
Should I store them in a Tagged Value?


4) The fourth solution I see, is to define an interface type, ICategoryType, 
extending IInterface just like IContentType. Then my categories would be 
interfaces whose type is ICategoryType. But with IContentType, is there a way to 
retrieve the list of all available content types?



Do you have some advice on the subject?  Am I asking the wrong questions? Is 
there an obvious solution I've not seen? Am I going too far and should I rather 
keep it simple and stupid?



regards,
Christophe







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[Zope3-Users] z3c.ajax help

2007-03-06 Thread Ricardo Sixel

Hi all !


Could anyone help me with z3c.ajax ? I cannot find neither instructions 
nor examples showing how to use or deploy it.


Thanks in advance !

Sixel

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Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 with RDBMS (avoiding ZODB)?

2007-03-06 Thread andy

David,
 Good point! I found same problem with ZAlchmey, and SQLOs
 could you please share your RBDMS package and procedures with me? maybe we
can establish a new open source project
 to develop it.
 thanks.

On 3/3/07, David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 1. Is Zope3 already in use in productive environments? Where are
> they (URLs)?
We are using Zope 3 pretty heavily in a productive environment, but
unfortunately the URLs are secure at this point.  We build financial
applications and we are building more.  Our live RDBMS application is
an administrative tool that queries 4 different financial databases.

> 2. Are there any bigger sites running on Zope3 (> 5 mio. accesses
> per month)?
We expect to have loads much greater than this when we are completed,
but we do not have any in production.

>
> 3. Our main problem is: in our Zope2-application we stored our
> content in a
> RDBMS, we avoided ZODB for that stuff. We are definitely going to
> use an RDBMS
> (PostgreSQL/MySQL) for the new (Zope3 or Django)-project and still
> want to avoid
> ZODB where possible. This architectural decision is carved out of
> stone.
>
> Now, where should we start with it in Zope3 to connect it to an RDBMS?
We do mostly SQL/RDBMS.  We have tried ZAlchmey, and SQLOs, but we
find them both a bit limiting and simultaneous complex to get them to
work they way we wanted.  In general when one develops and RDBMS
application of any size, the database structure can get very
complex.  In order to integrate them into Zope 3 just right, it's
best to manually code the containers and objects.  We have been able
to simplify the process quite a bit and we are very happy with it.
It's amazing scalable.If you do decide to go this way, I would be
glad to share our RBDMS package and procedures.  We've developed some
guidelines to improve development.  We use MySQL exclusively.

>
> 3.1 We have found 'PostGreSQL Database Adapter' and 'MySQL Database
> Adapter'. Both are from the Isar sprint (2004-11-06). Are they out
> of date,
> or just 'nearly perfect'? Is anybody using these adapters?
>
We use the MySQL adapter. Zope 3 has a bug in the database adapters
that requires having to use global utilities (etc/overrides.zcml). It
is otherwise stable.  In otherwords you cannot currently add and use
database adapters in Zope 3 through the ZMI but can through
overrides.zcml.

> 3.2 sqlos - SQLObject Support package (http://codespeak.net/z3/
> sqlos/):
> Is it stable? Has someone experiences with it?
> In http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2006-January/001797.html
> Stephan Richter says: "On the other hand, not many people use
> sqlos, so
> it might not be as supported as you wish it would be." Is that
> still right?
>
> 3.3 Also there is 'zsqlmap: Zope3 wrapper for SQLObject'
> (http://www.zope.org/Members/garanin/zsqlmap). This is not really a
> solution for us because the version number is 0.01b and the author
> says:
> 'NOTE: i tested only postgres.' Not really a capable product...
I find it easier to hand code than use the third party packages. We
have created our own classes that we find a bit more simple and
versatile. I suppose this is a preference thing.


> 4. Has anybody practical experience and hints with Zope3 and RDBMS?
>
> 5. The ZMI: In Zope2 we never used it.
> Do we need the ZMI in Zope 3 just if we will not use the ZODB for
> storing our
> content objects but an RDBMS instead. According to 'Web Component
> Development
> with Zope 3' by Philipp von Weiterhausen the ZMI is used to manage
> content objects
> stored in the ZODB, so our assumption is, if we do not store them
> in the ZODB,
> we do not need the ZMI. Is that right or do we need the ZMI for
> anything else?
> Do we need ZMI in Zope3 for administration or can we do that with
> scripts etc.?
The ZMI is everything in regards to management.  The new approach is
to skin the ZMI to match your own design scheme.  The staff who uses
our old management applications in UNIX and PHP loves the new Zope 3
stuff we've done.  It's so simple that we plan on extending some of
the administrative functionality to our clients.

>
> 6. Last but not least two quotes from the zope3-dev mailinglist
> (http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2006-February/018217.html):
>> >Shane Hathaway wrote:
>>> >> It could
>>> >> turn out that people who don't want ZODB really shouldn't use
>>> Zope at
>>> >> all.
>> >This has been the case in my experience...
>> >Chris Withers
I disagree completely. We use SQL although I do wish that SQL
integration was stronger.  The structure of Zope is excellent for
scalability.  You'll pay up front a little, but the simplicity and
versatility is really great.  We've basically only found 2 platforms
that scaled well, J2EE and Zope 3.  Zope 3 is vastly better in nearly
every way in my opinion, except perhaps documentation.  The
documentation is very weak, but it is a young platform.  The content
view model of Zope 3 and the clean API's is wonderful.  The pla

[Zope3-Users] Re: ZAlchemy demos (z3c.zalchemy) - Unknown directive: engine

2007-03-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:07, Stefan Krumbiegel (Galileo Press) wrote:

What could it be?


Did you type make after isntalling ZAlchemy? Make sure that alchemy is not 
included using a symlink, since the MAkefile will not pick this up.


"make" will only work if he's using a subversion checkout of Zope 3 
*and* is working inside that checkout instead of an instance. That's 
pretty unlikely (and it's not what I'd recommend anybody getting started 
with Zope 3 should do).



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[Zope3-Users] Re: ZAlchemy demos (z3c.zalchemy) - Unknown directive: engine

2007-03-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Stefan Krumbiegel (Galileo Press) wrote:
I installed Zope3 
(http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.1/Zope-3.3.1.tgz) and 
z3c.zalchemy from the repository (http://svn.zope.org/z3c.zalchemy/trunk/).

I followed the steps in the README.txt to try the ZAlchemy demos...

An error occured while starting the Zope3 instance:

zope.configuration.xmlconfig.ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/site.zcml", line 7.2-7.55
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/package-includes/z3c.zalchemy.demo-configure.zcml", 
line 2.0-2.46
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/z3c.zalchemy-trunk-py2.4.egg/z3c/zalchemy/demo/demo_1/configure.zcml", 
line 8.2
ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', 
u'http://namespaces.zalchemy.org/alchemy', u'engine')


What could it be?


z3c.zalchemy registers a bunch of new directives. Whenever a package 
does that, you need to load it's "meta" configuration. To do that, add a 
"z3c.zalchemy-meta.zcml" file to INSTANCE/etc/package-includes with the 
following contents:


  


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[Zope3-Users] Re: ZAlchemy demos (z3c.zalchemy) - Unknown directive: engine

2007-03-06 Thread Jürgen Kartnaller



Stefan Krumbiegel (Galileo Press) wrote:
I installed Zope3 
(http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.1/Zope-3.3.1.tgz) and 
z3c.zalchemy from the repository (http://svn.zope.org/z3c.zalchemy/trunk/).

I followed the steps in the README.txt to try the ZAlchemy demos...

An error occured while starting the Zope3 instance:

zope.configuration.xmlconfig.ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/site.zcml", line 7.2-7.55
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/package-includes/z3c.zalchemy.demo-configure.zcml", 
line 2.0-2.46
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/z3c.zalchemy-trunk-py2.4.egg/z3c/zalchemy/demo/demo_1/configure.zcml", 
line 8.2
ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', 
u'http://namespaces.zalchemy.org/alchemy', u'engine')


I'm almost 100% sure you need to add z3c.zalchemy-configure.zcml and 
z3c.zalchemy-meta.zcml to your package-includes.


Jürgen

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Re: [Zope3-Users] ZAlchemy demos (z3c.zalchemy) - Unknown directive: engine

2007-03-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:07, Stefan Krumbiegel (Galileo Press) wrote:
> What could it be?

Did you type make after isntalling ZAlchemy? Make sure that alchemy is not 
included using a symlink, since the MAkefile will not pick this up.

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[Zope3-Users] ZAlchemy demos (z3c.zalchemy) - Unknown directive: engine

2007-03-06 Thread Stefan Krumbiegel (Galileo Press)
I installed Zope3 
(http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.1/Zope-3.3.1.tgz) and 
z3c.zalchemy from the repository (http://svn.zope.org/z3c.zalchemy/trunk/).

I followed the steps in the README.txt to try the ZAlchemy demos...

An error occured while starting the Zope3 instance:

zope.configuration.xmlconfig.ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/site.zcml", line 7.2-7.55
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/web/zope3_instance_worldcookery/etc/package-includes/z3c.zalchemy.demo-configure.zcml", 
line 2.0-2.46
ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/z3c.zalchemy-trunk-py2.4.egg/z3c/zalchemy/demo/demo_1/configure.zcml", 
line 8.2
ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', 
u'http://namespaces.zalchemy.org/alchemy', u'engine')


What could it be?

Thanks and best regards
Stefan
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