Re: [Zope3-Users] Compatibility
Milind Khadilkar wrote: In light of these insights, I feel the Zope home page should be re-drafted so as to present alternatives clearly to newcomers. Currently, Zope 3 is not presented prominently, causing newcomers to start with Zope 2 by default. Yes, an effort to improve the web presence of Zope 3 is sorely needed. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Compatibility
In light of these insights, I feel the Zope home page should be re-drafted so as to present alternatives clearly to newcomers. Currently, Zope 3 is not presented prominently, causing newcomers to start with Zope 2 by default.
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Milind Khadilkar
On 11/23/05, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Milind Khadilkar wrote:> Is it correct to say that one of the major objectives of Zope 3 as opposed
> to zope-x ( viz. compatibility with Zope 2, or at least an easy way for> importing products from zope 2) has not been achieved?Unfortunately the whole 'X' story was always interpreted differently by
different people. It's unfortunate, and our (the Zope 3 project's)mistake, that your interpretation ("Zope 2 products work in Zope 3")ever was made possible in the first place...> The 'x' was removed
> on grounds of being ready for production use, not on grounds of> compatibility. The release announcement for 3.1 also mentions continuing> efforts to ease transition from zope 2 to zope 3. Is it meant to be the same
> as "ability to import products"?As Stephan said in his reply, I find it unlikely that you'll ever beable to run Zope 2 products in Zope 3. We're taking the other direction-- Zope 2 products run in Zope 2 obviously, but we're making sure that
with Five, more and more Zope 3 code also works in Zope 2. This allowsyou to start porting code over to Zope 3 while it remains to work in Zope 2.Five is hardly the perfect transition tool; most of Zope 3 code doesn't
work in Zope 2 either without significant modifications. Step by stephowever this gap is being bridged.Regards,Martijn
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Compatibility
Milind Khadilkar wrote:
Is it correct to say that one of the major objectives of Zope 3 as opposed
to zope-x ( viz. compatibility with Zope 2, or at least an easy way for
importing products from zope 2) has not been achieved?
Unfortunately the whole 'X' story was always interpreted differently by
different people. It's unfortunate, and our (the Zope 3 project's)
mistake, that your interpretation ("Zope 2 products work in Zope 3")
ever was made possible in the first place...
The 'x' was removed
on grounds of being ready for production use, not on grounds of
compatibility. The release announcement for 3.1 also mentions continuing
efforts to ease transition from zope 2 to zope 3. Is it meant to be the same
as "ability to import products"?
As Stephan said in his reply, I find it unlikely that you'll ever be
able to run Zope 2 products in Zope 3. We're taking the other direction
-- Zope 2 products run in Zope 2 obviously, but we're making sure that
with Five, more and more Zope 3 code also works in Zope 2. This allows
you to start porting code over to Zope 3 while it remains to work in Zope 2.
Five is hardly the perfect transition tool; most of Zope 3 code doesn't
work in Zope 2 either without significant modifications. Step by step
however this gap is being bridged.
Regards,
Martijn
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Compatibility
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 19:34, Milind Khadilkar wrote: > Is it correct to say that one of the major objectives of Zope 3 as opposed > to zope-x ( viz. compatibility with Zope 2, or at least an easy way for > importing products from zope 2) has not been achieved? The 'x' was removed > on grounds of being ready for production use, not on grounds of > compatibility. The release announcement for 3.1 also mentions continuing > efforts to ease transition from zope 2 to zope 3. Is it meant to be the > same as "ability to import products"? My opinion is that you will never be able to import your Zope 2 product as a packge in plain Zope 3. HAving said that, there are continuous efforts, such as Five and Goldegg, to bring Zope 3 technology into Zope 2. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Compatibility
Hi, Is it correct to say that one of the major objectives of Zope 3 as opposed to zope-x ( viz. compatibility with Zope 2, or at least an easy way for importing products from zope 2) has not been achieved? The 'x' was removed on grounds of being ready for production use, not on grounds of compatibility. The release announcement for 3.1 also mentions continuing efforts to ease transition from zope 2 to zope 3. Is it meant to be the same as "ability to import products"? Thanks ZedObject ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
