Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Andy McKay
> But once you have done 5 lines of dtml, and yoo need to add sixth, > what is more probable: > > 1. Rewrite as a pyhtonmethod > 2. Just add the sixth line > > I have the creeping feeling, that dtml is the worst thing since csh. > > Fortunatly, even DC seems to have realized it. Its a double edge

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Andy McKay
OTECTED]>; "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:35 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-) > > > > > > "it's not apparent that DC is quickly responding to fixes.&

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote: > I (hope I) wasn't implying that Zope _needs_ to be embedded into > Apache. ;) > > I for my part am quite happy with proxypassing. > > All I wanted to know is whether anybody had tried to run Zope with But these modules does not run p/f-cgi - they ru

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Stefan H. Holek
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote: > > > Why isn't there a mod_zope module? > > > > There certainly are mod_snake and mod_python. Has anybody tried to run > > Zope with one of those? > >Zope is a server by itself, it doesn't need to be em

RE: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Steve Drees
> > > > Zope's built in FTP server is one of it's huge stengths, IMO. > He hasn't > > > realised this and so bitches about it. You can always turn it off you > > > know! Likewise the HTTP server, run Zope as a CGI if you must! :P > > > "Apache already exists and is highly flexible and configur

RE: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Brian Lloyd
> > > "it's not apparent that DC is quickly responding to fixes." > > I think DC and this group are great at responding to fixes, especially > anything serious or security related. Ok there are still a few bugs out > there that havent quite gone yet, but everybody has been great. The good > comm

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Stefan H. Holek wrote: > > Why isn't there a mod_zope module? > > There certainly are mod_snake and mod_python. Has anybody tried to run > Zope with one of those? Zope is a server by itself, it doesn't need to be embedded ito Apache. There IS mod_pcgi2 to connect A

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Stefan H. Holek
> Why isn't there a mod_zope module? There certainly are mod_snake and mod_python. Has anybody tried to run Zope with one of those? Stefan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-12-01 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:18:57PM -0800, Andy McKay wrote: > For most small applications DTML can suffice, but when it gets large you > should separate your code the way its intended, DTML is for simple logic and > presentation ONLY. Whilst PythonMethods are cool, I would naturally stray > away

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-11-30 Thread Cees de Groot
Andy McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The heavy lifting, logic and anything more should be in python. I won't >pretend its particularly easy Zope hurt quite a lot some times, but we got >there.. > I think this is the biggest problem of Zope. Contrary to Python, Zope makes it /hard/ to do things th

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-11-30 Thread Andy McKay
L PROTECTED]>; "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-) > I have to say though reading his site a few interesting quotations popped up > (http://

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-11-30 Thread Andy McKay
ris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-) > > > Hi guys, > > > I found this article written by someone from Quixote concerning Zope, > > &g

Re: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-11-30 Thread Andy McKay
> > Hi guys, > > I found this article written by someone from Quixote concerning Zope, > > describing its weaknesses and possible future development > > http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/why-not-zope.html > > This guy is quite far up his own arse :-) I agree and Im just agreeing with what Chris sa

RE: [Zope] Why Not Zope? 'Cos I like to bitch! ;-)

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Drees
> > I found this article written by someone from Quixote concerning Zope, > > describing its weaknesses and possible future development > > http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/why-not-zope.html > > No CVS is also a problem, but with the improvements in the History tab > and the like, this less of an