Re: [Zope] Zope & python 2

2000-11-02 Thread Toby Dickenson

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:50:16 +1100, Curtis Maloney
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>Hmm.. well, that's good to know... which products have you tried it with so 
>far?

Only my own ;-)

>> >And from the looks of things there are a large number of small changes
>> > that could be made to improve performance (such as the new 'augmented
>> > assignment' operators [ += *= /= and so on] )
>>
>> It seems likely that they will not be available in dtml (for the same
>> reasons as regular assignment). The case for PythonMethods has not yet
>> been investigated
>
>I didn't mean to dtml, I meant to all the Python code underneath.  I'm sure 
>you've noticed there is a lot more to Zope than just DTML and Python methods.

Like what?

Toby Dickenson
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Re: [Zope] Zope & python 2

2000-10-29 Thread Curtis Maloney

On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> Is anyone using or know the current state of Zope with python 2.0 ?
> >
> >I've been somewhat curious about this myself.
>
> The current release of Zope works well on python 2.0. If you are a
> cautious type, you might not want to use it on a production server
> yet. (I would certainly recommend you dont if you allow untrusted
> users to write dtml)
>
Hmm.. well, that's good to know... which products have you tried it with so 
far?

> >Will there need to be large changes now that strings are proper objects?
> > (the string functions are now methods of strings).  If so, will this mean
> > the phasing out of _.string ?
>
> _.string is unlikely to go away.
>
> String methods are currently inaccessible TTW. The security
> implications of opening this up have not yet been assessed.
>
> >And from the looks of things there are a large number of small changes
> > that could be made to improve performance (such as the new 'augmented
> > assignment' operators [ += *= /= and so on] )
>
> It seems likely that they will not be available in dtml (for the same
> reasons as regular assignment). The case for PythonMethods has not yet
> been investigated
>

I didn't mean to dtml, I meant to all the Python code underneath.  I'm sure 
you've noticed there is a lot more to Zope than just DTML and Python methods.

>
> Toby Dickenson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Have a better one,
Curtis Maloney.

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Re: [Zope] Zope & python 2

2000-10-26 Thread Toby Dickenson

>> Hi all
>>
>> Is anyone using or know the current state of Zope with python 2.0 ?
>
>I've been somewhat curious about this myself.

The current release of Zope works well on python 2.0. If you are a
cautious type, you might not want to use it on a production server
yet. (I would certainly recommend you dont if you allow untrusted
users to write dtml)

>Will there need to be large changes now that strings are proper objects? (the 
>string functions are now methods of strings).  If so, will this mean the 
>phasing out of _.string ?

_.string is unlikely to go away.

String methods are currently inaccessible TTW. The security
implications of opening this up have not yet been assessed.

>Will the new Unicode support, does this mean Zope is now a big step closer to 
>i18n?

My patches to give Zope full (full enough for me) unicode support are
at http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring.

>And from the looks of things there are a large number of small changes that 
>could be made to improve performance (such as the new 'augmented assignment' 
>operators [ += *= /= and so on] )

It seems likely that they will not be available in dtml (for the same
reasons as regular assignment). The case for PythonMethods has not yet
been investigated

>watching closely,

Not closely enough ;-)



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Re: [Zope] Zope & python 2

2000-10-25 Thread Curtis Maloney

On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Mark Twiddy wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Is anyone using or know the current state of Zope with python 2.0 ?
>

I've been somewhat curious about this myself.

Will there need to be large changes now that strings are proper objects? (the 
string functions are now methods of strings).  If so, will this mean the 
phasing out of _.string ?

Will the new Unicode support, does this mean Zope is now a big step closer to 
i18n?

And from the looks of things there are a large number of small changes that 
could be made to improve performance (such as the new 'augmented assignment' 
operators [ += *= /= and so on] )

> Thanks
>
> Joe
>

watching closely,
Curtis

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