Re: [Zyprexa-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS WILL HALL!!!!
Hi david, i'm obviously not following this as closely as you are, and I don't have a lawyer's advice or the benefit of a lawyer's advice when i was contacted to parse the subtelties of what was going on. ordering, telling, instructing, asking - i'm glad there are legal distinctions between these things and that vera is challenging them. what i know is that the court and jim did tell me to return the documents, which i did, immediately. it's nice to know that i might have gotten away with not returning them. -- will David Oaks wrote: > And to be a bit more clear about a point below The court never > instructed the named people besides Jim to return the files to him... > the court did instruct Jim to request that those Jim had given the files > to return them to him. Some did, some did not. > > During the recent hearing Vera said she had not done this because she > awaited the court decision... the judge asked Vera to turn over her copy > to her attorney to be held in escrow, until the court makes its final > decision. > > > David > > On Jan 26, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Will Hall wrote: > >> hi all, thanks aby, but just to clarify, the articles are not about my >> role in distributing the lilly documents! i'm not distributing the lilly >> documents. >> >> I was put on a gag order along with 12 other activists who jim g. sent >> the docs to. the gag order blocks me from distributing the docs or even >> telling people how to find them. when the court asked me to return >> them, i did so immediately. that's what the articles are about. >> >> please be clear about this in any public statements, unless you want to >> put me at risk. (this list is scrutinized by them, for example) if >> eli-lilly puts me in their sights my life could become very difficult. >> >> thanks >> >> -- will >> >> aby adams wrote: >>> for those of you who don't have access to local northampton, ma media >>> Will Hall was successfully and favorably covered on the front page of >>> the hampshire gazette and in the valley advocate for his role in >>> distributing the eli lilly documents. the gazette article was >>> followed by a letter to the editor praising Will and everyone for >>> working to make sure that people had accurate information about their >>> medication. a few days later the gazette editor's editorial condemned >>> eli lilly for trying to sequester the information and praised us all >>> for our work. congratulations will and everyone >>> ___ >>> Zyprexa-discuss mailing list >>> Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu >>> http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> Zyprexa-discuss mailing list >> Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu >> http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss > > David Oaks, Director > MindFreedom International > 454 Willamette, Suite 216 - POB 11284 > Eugene, OR 97440-3484 USA > > web: http://www.mindfreedom.org > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > office phone: (541) 345-9106 > fax: (541) 345-3737 > member services toll free in USA: 1-877-MAD-PRID[e] or 1-877-623-7743 > > United Action for Human Rights in Mental Health. > > MindFreedom International is an independent > non-profit uniting 100 sponsor groups > to win human rights & alternatives in mental health. > Accredited by the United Nations as a > Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) with > Consultative Roster Status. > > Join now! http://www.mindfreedom.org/join-donate > > "Human salvation lies in the hands of the > creatively maladjusted." - Martin Luther King, Jr. > > > > > ___ Zyprexa-discuss mailing list Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss
Re: [Zyprexa-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS WILL HALL!!!!
sure, just check www.freedom-center.org, the news section on the left menu Asheesh Laroia wrote: > Will, is it possible for you to send a link to these articles to the list? > > Even if the content is behind a registration wall, registering to read > them isn't too much hassle, and I definitely think that linking straight > to the story would help people keep their facts straight. > > And of course, congratulations on the press coverage! > > -- Asheesh. > ___ Zyprexa-discuss mailing list Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss
Re: [Zyprexa-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS WILL HALL!!!!
And to be a bit more clear about a point below The court never instructed the named people besides Jim to return the files to him... the court did instruct Jim to request that those Jim had given the files to return them to him. Some did, some did not. During the recent hearing Vera said she had not done this because she awaited the court decision... the judge asked Vera to turn over her copy to her attorney to be held in escrow, until the court makes its final decision. David On Jan 26, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Will Hall wrote: > hi all, thanks aby, but just to clarify, the articles are not about my > role in distributing the lilly documents! i'm not distributing the > lilly > documents. > > I was put on a gag order along with 12 other activists who jim g. sent > the docs to. the gag order blocks me from distributing the docs or > even > telling people how to find them. when the court asked me to return > them, i did so immediately. that's what the articles are about. > > please be clear about this in any public statements, unless you > want to > put me at risk. (this list is scrutinized by them, for example) if > eli-lilly puts me in their sights my life could become very difficult. > > thanks > > -- will > > aby adams wrote: >> for those of you who don't have access to local northampton, ma media >> Will Hall was successfully and favorably covered on the front page of >> the hampshire gazette and in the valley advocate for his role in >> distributing the eli lilly documents. the gazette article was >> followed by a letter to the editor praising Will and everyone for >> working to make sure that people had accurate information about their >> medication. a few days later the gazette editor's editorial >> condemned >> eli lilly for trying to sequester the information and praised us all >> for our work. congratulations will and everyone >> ___ >> Zyprexa-discuss mailing list >> Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu >> http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss >> > > ___ > Zyprexa-discuss mailing list > Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu > http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss David Oaks, Director MindFreedom International 454 Willamette, Suite 216 - POB 11284 Eugene, OR 97440-3484 USA web: http://www.mindfreedom.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] office phone: (541) 345-9106 fax: (541) 345-3737 member services toll free in USA: 1-877-MAD-PRID[e] or 1-877-623-7743 United Action for Human Rights in Mental Health. MindFreedom International is an independent non-profit uniting 100 sponsor groups to win human rights & alternatives in mental health. Accredited by the United Nations as a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) with Consultative Roster Status. Join now! http://www.mindfreedom.org/join-donate "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Zyprexa-discuss mailing list Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss
Re: [Zyprexa-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS WILL HALL!!!!
hi all, thanks aby, but just to clarify, the articles are not about my role in distributing the lilly documents! i'm not distributing the lilly documents. I was put on a gag order along with 12 other activists who jim g. sent the docs to. the gag order blocks me from distributing the docs or even telling people how to find them. when the court asked me to return them, i did so immediately. that's what the articles are about. please be clear about this in any public statements, unless you want to put me at risk. (this list is scrutinized by them, for example) if eli-lilly puts me in their sights my life could become very difficult. thanks -- will aby adams wrote: > for those of you who don't have access to local northampton, ma media > Will Hall was successfully and favorably covered on the front page of > the hampshire gazette and in the valley advocate for his role in > distributing the eli lilly documents. the gazette article was > followed by a letter to the editor praising Will and everyone for > working to make sure that people had accurate information about their > medication. a few days later the gazette editor's editorial condemned > eli lilly for trying to sequester the information and praised us all > for our work. congratulations will and everyone > ___ > Zyprexa-discuss mailing list > Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu > http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss > ___ Zyprexa-discuss mailing list Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss
[Zyprexa-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS WILL HALL!!!!
for those of you who don't have access to local northampton, ma media Will Hall was successfully and favorably covered on the front page of the hampshire gazette and in the valley advocate for his role in distributing the eli lilly documents. the gazette article was followed by a letter to the editor praising Will and everyone for working to make sure that people had accurate information about their medication. a few days later the gazette editor's editorial condemned eli lilly for trying to sequester the information and praised us all for our work. congratulations will and everyone ___ Zyprexa-discuss mailing list Zyprexa-discuss@acm.jhu.edu http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/mailman/listinfo/zyprexa-discuss
