Hi again,

Just wanted to add one more thing. I don't have to get it done before the devcamp, but they are going to show us how to port cocoa apps to ipad platform. This might be too ambitious for the short term.

But I'll be looking to bring a small cocoa app with me to play with. If I cant even get the python on the ipad/iPod I guess an online interpreter works as long as I'm within wifi range.

http://www.python.org/download/mac

Thank you!
Katherine

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James Thiele wrote:
Were can I download the source to Gmail and Google Docs? Android is
kinda lame without them. :)

I said android was open -- not Google software in general ( I say as I
get frustrated with a few bugs in Picasa on Linux...)

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note that android is just the 'unifying' programmable interface on top of the various ( usually linux based I believe) smarthphones from the manufacturers. The open source part really just refers to the parts that they have exposed to
the public.

BUT the original statement is true that android is wayyy more open as compared to apple/iphone. Also there are deployment issues wrt apple controlling what gets on the phones, in the marketplace, etc etc. not to mention having to
shell over $ just to get the toolkit to do anything with it.

something interesting that someone mentioned at the last seajug meeting was a project called http://xmlvm.org/ which is a cross-compiler toolchain for translating programs between different platforms. It converts from different languages to an XML representation of the program .They've already done the part which converts from the XML representation to being able to run the iPhone so maybe all you might have to do is figure out the part which converts from python to the XML representation that they use. Looks really cool.

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On Friday 26 March 2010 12:57:43 pm Christopher Barker wrote:
James Thiele wrote:
Were can I download the source to Gmail and Google Docs? Android is
kinda lame without them. :)

I said android was open -- not Google software in general ( I say as I
get frustrated with a few bugs in Picasa on Linux...)

-Chris




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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:37:47 -0700
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Katherine Hernandez
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm learning Python (and in the process of getting a computer science BS) and I really want to make an interpreter for mobile apps so that I can practice coding on the go. I read Python books and come across things I want to try but its not always feasible to use a computer for little scripts or
just playing around.
I know Apple doesn't like anything with scripts running on their devices, but I'd like to build it in a way where it would be self contained. I'm not sure how to do this in a way that Apple would accept, I don't jailbreak
devices so the only way to get it to work on an iPhone is to actually
develop and submit an app. I met a guy on the way back from CES that showed
me something like this on an android device his company makes.
I'm doing some Cocoa tutorials, so if there's a way to get it going in
Cocoa, I am going to a devcamp where I will learn to port Cocoa/Mac
applications to Apple devices. Is this a silly idea or impossible to get
this sort of this going?

As other folks mentioned, Apple doesn't currently allow native
applications with interpreters in them.

That said... perhaps it's not as interesting as developing it
yourself, but if you just want to run some Python from an iPhone (or
probably nearly any other phone with a good webbrowser) you can use
one of the online python interpreters like:
http://try-python.mired.org/

Or, even better, install one of the SSH applications for the iPhone
and ssh into a machine you already have access to and run a full
version of python remotely.

If you don't have access to a machine, you can let google host one for
you via appengine console: http://con.appspot.com/console/help/about
I think I'm going to go set this up now. :)

Take care,
   -Brian


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