On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Mike Orr <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Nimret Sandhu <[email protected]> wrote: > > Again, I don't get it. python has had multiple major releases during the > > time that perl 6 has been 'under development'. > > > > Regardless, perl's been dead to me for a long long time. > > We don't need to get into partisan mud-slinging. which is why I ignored the following earlier comments and did not respond to them. I prefer to talk about facts rather than rhetoric: "we are just 2 beautiful drops in the bucket of a Java/C# sludge world." and "But if you choose to keep your head in the sand and believe that other languages are dead, it is your language that will soon be "legacy"." my comment above regarding perl being dead to me a long time ago is my personal opinion; the reasons are illustrated in your paragraph at the bottom regarding perl. > One thing I've been > happy about in SeaPIG is that we have so many members who use multiple > languages and are interested in multiple languages, and we can have > respectful discussions with partisans of other languages. > well, java/[j|p]ython/bash,awk,etc are currently my choice tools of trade and I love to dabble in other languages, tools, frameworks, etc so I completely agree with you on that. Each tool/language is designed to do some things well and some things not so well. So knowing the strengths and weaknesses of a technology is key .. along with knowing multiple technologies ( or languages) to do a job. I didn't intend to be disrespectful - perhaps I was too strong in my criticism of the current state of perl and of perl as a language. Your para below pretty much summarizes the gist of what I was trying to communicate wrt programming in Perl as of circa late 90's which is when I last looked at it and decided it wasn't worth staying up to date upon. -- Nimret Sandhu http://www.nimret.org One thing to keep in mind is that perceptions often outlast realities, > often for many years or decades. It is my impression that Perl still > has a dedicated group of followers but it's not that "externally > active". By that I mean, it's been a long time since I've seen a job > listing that required Perl or even requested Perl. Many of us > Pythoneers came from a Perl and/or Java background we found stifling, > and when we got into Python we found it hard to find a job with Python > until it became easier. There's that plus the fact that we prefer > Python's "One Way to Do It" over Perl's "Many Ways to Do It" and "Perl > poetry". The latter gives too much freedom for bad/ugly/ambiguous > code to become widely used and maintained. Although, as my Perl > friends point out, it's also possible to write well-structured, > well-commented code in Perl, without excess magic. And I assume that > over time, the good code in Perl libraries has tended to drive out the > bad. > > > -- > Mike Orr <[email protected]> >
