Sounds like an interesting topic to me, I'll be there too 

On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:

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>   1. Re:  Interest in a rough version of a metrics gathering talk?
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>   2. Re:  Interest in a rough version of a metrics gathering talk?
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>   3. Re:  Kotti, Linux Gazette, and the Answer Gang (Kevin LaTona)
>   4.  Fwd: Open position (Nimret Sandhu)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:13:22 -0700
> From: Peter Conerly <[email protected]>
> To: Seattle Python Interest Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [SEAPY] Interest in a rough version of a metrics
>    gathering talk?
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> Hey everyone,
> 
> We're confirmed for Tuesday September 11th, I reserved the office nomads
> conference room for that evening.  Brian, did you want to start at 6pm or 7?
> 
> I'll send out an email on Monday reminding everyone of the location (
> http://officenomads.com/about/map/ ) and time.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Brian Dorsey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Excellent. It looks like it's going to happen! Just waiting to confirm the
>> day.
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Michael Frank <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> i'd be interested in this talk, that sounds like a good plan to me.
>>> 
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/12 3:52 PM, Jonathan Mark wrote:
>>>> Maybe we should declare this to be the September SeaPIG meeting?  And
>>>> have time for discussion of other topics afterward?
>>>> We don't have a topic for September anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know if I can make it but that would be cool if Peter can host!
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> 
>>>>    Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/03/2012 03:42 PM, Peter Conerly wrote:
>>>>> Hey Brian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm interested in hearing that talk!  I'm a resident at Office Nomads
>> and
>>>>> we could host it here in the conference room.  The room can sit around
>> 14
>>>>> people.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Brian Dorsey<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> tl;dr: Are you interested in a rough talk on metrics on the evening
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> 10th or 11th? Could you host it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> I'm preparing for a talk about gathering application metrics at PyCon
>>>>>> Japan in a few weeks:
>>>>>> Gathering and visualizing metrics with ZeroMQ, Redis&  Graphite
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "I built a small system to collect, summarize and graph detailed
>>>>>> application metrics. The system is simple, reliable and easy to
>>>>>> extend. In
>>>>>> this talk, I'll walk through the configuration and Python code which
>>>>>> glues
>>>>>> everything together."
>>>>>> 
>> http://2012.pycon.jp/program/sessions.html#session-15-1630-room351a-ja
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The talk will be about 30 minutes long - maybe shorter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to give a rough version and get some feedback before the
>>>>>> conference. If even a few people are interested, I'll set something
>>>>>> up and
>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, do you have a space where 6-12 people could watch a talk? :)  I
>>>>>> leave for Japan on the 12th, so the only days I can do it are the
>>>>>> evenings
>>>>>> of the 10th and 11th this month.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for reading this far!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> -Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:30:02 -0700
> From: Brian Dorsey <[email protected]>
> To: Seattle Python Interest Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [SEAPY] Interest in a rough version of a metrics
>    gathering talk?
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Let's start at 7pm. 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Peter Conerly <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone,
>> 
>> We're confirmed for Tuesday September 11th, I reserved the office nomads 
>> conference room for that evening.  Brian, did you want to start at 6pm or 7?
>> 
>> I'll send out an email on Monday reminding everyone of the location ( 
>> http://officenomads.com/about/map/ ) and time.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Brian Dorsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Excellent. It looks like it's going to happen! Just waiting to confirm the 
>> day.
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Michael Frank <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> i'd be interested in this talk, that sounds like a good plan to me.
>>> 
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/12 3:52 PM, Jonathan Mark wrote:
>>>> Maybe we should declare this to be the September SeaPIG meeting?  And
>>>> have time for discussion of other topics afterward?
>>>> We don't have a topic for September anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know if I can make it but that would be cool if Peter can host!
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> 
>>>>    Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/03/2012 03:42 PM, Peter Conerly wrote:
>>>>> Hey Brian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm interested in hearing that talk!  I'm a resident at Office Nomads and
>>>>> we could host it here in the conference room.  The room can sit around 14
>>>>> people.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Brian Dorsey<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> tl;dr: Are you interested in a rough talk on metrics on the evening
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> 10th or 11th? Could you host it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> I'm preparing for a talk about gathering application metrics at PyCon
>>>>>> Japan in a few weeks:
>>>>>> Gathering and visualizing metrics with ZeroMQ, Redis&  Graphite
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "I built a small system to collect, summarize and graph detailed
>>>>>> application metrics. The system is simple, reliable and easy to
>>>>>> extend. In
>>>>>> this talk, I'll walk through the configuration and Python code which
>>>>>> glues
>>>>>> everything together."
>>>>>> http://2012.pycon.jp/program/sessions.html#session-15-1630-room351a-ja
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The talk will be about 30 minutes long - maybe shorter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to give a rough version and get some feedback before the
>>>>>> conference. If even a few people are interested, I'll set something
>>>>>> up and
>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, do you have a space where 6-12 people could watch a talk? :)  I
>>>>>> leave for Japan on the 12th, so the only days I can do it are the
>>>>>> evenings
>>>>>> of the 10th and 11th this month.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for reading this far!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> -Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:18:59 -0700
> From: Kevin LaTona <[email protected]>
> To: Seattle Python Interest Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [SEAPY] Kotti, Linux Gazette, and the Answer Gang
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> 
> 
> -------Short version of my last message---------
> 
> 
> The better the tools we in the Python community create.
> 
> To share our knowledge within the community.
> 
> The stronger and smarter our community will continue on becoming.
> 
> 
> This should make it easier to find a viable Python job and better  
> workers to fill those slots.
> 
> 
> The simple place to start at might be is building an app that acts a  
> dashboard / GUI
> 
> To harness some of the most popular tools like Github, Bit Bucket,  
> Stack Overflow, twitter, reddit, etc.
> 
> Then toss in a good blog engine that is easy to use.
> 
> Now feed all this focused thought into a good search engine like Google.
> 
> And the Python community will explode with better knowledge and  
> smarter workers.
> 
> And that is just the start with the doors blown wide open.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Kevin LaTona wrote:
> 
>> 
>> In my view the only was a user supported community can sustain and  
>> move forward over the long haul is by "taking a little, and giving a  
>> lot more back" to that community and those that surround as well.
>> 
>> Can we take some of the ideas from here and other past attempts and  
>> re-work them to make them better and easier to use?
>> 
>> This way people can find the answers they need to solve their  
>> problems today .
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Quick example recently I've shifted over to using FreeBSD for our  
>> servers.
>> 
>> Without a doubt FreeBSD is one the core servers that has paved the  
>> way for so many other servers to grow from given it's Unix core roots.
>> 
>> Today the internet is chocked full of information about FreeBSD.
>> 
>> Only problem is much if not all of the data out there is out date  
>> with FreeBSD 9 let along 9.1
>> 
>> Which in many ways is making a shift from the older versions ......  
>> every so subtly.
>> 
>> 
>> At this point all of this out dated information tends to point  
>> people in the wrong direction and waste your time.
>> 
>> As with all things we need to move on and over to new idea and ways  
>> of doing the same old thing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hmmmmm sounds just like Python to me, as we all stand in front of  
>> moving on and over to Python 3.x
>> 
>> 
>> I think all of these ideas presented here so far are good.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But can we find a way to allow individuals to share snippets of code  
>> and wisdom in such a way that can effectively harnesses the power of  
>> collective "crowd sourcing" model over the long haul?
>> 
>> 
>> And also allows individuals to keep a personal view back on this  
>> effort?
>> 
>> 
>> I think allowing an individual to keep a personal index of bookmarks  
>> makes it more powerful.
>> 
>> And will give people a reason to want to share and be apart of the  
>> community.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You know the "one of for all and all for one thing" ....... comes to  
>> mind making it a win-win case.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So far all the solutions out there fall short of this.
>> 
>> 
>> But there are many ideas from which we could look at to spring board  
>> forward on to the next level if we think about it a bit more.
>> 
>> 
>> Stack exchange is an excellent idea that is far more effective than  
>> an email support list could be.
>> 
>> Yet the problem is there still is no way to really organize this  
>> wisdom collectively and keep it up to date.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just the other day I was thinking what if all Python bloggers used  
>> the same core blogging engine.
>> 
>> What if we take the idea of a "Wordpress platform" and focused it on  
>> to the "Python topic"?
>> 
>> 
>> What I am driving at is can we define a "data model" that over time  
>> can be refreshed style wise, but everyone writes to.
>> 
>> 
>> This way over time a "knowledge base standard" is being created that  
>> can live on vs being lost like a 8 Track tape or a Word 1.0 Document.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, Mike I would be interested in looking at ways of taking some of  
>> your ideas or those of others on the list to see where we could end  
>> up.
>> 
>> As the collective power of a group focused on sharing surely will  
>> out weight what an individual can do alone.
>> 
>> -Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin LaTona
>> STUDIO SOLA
>> Web | Mobile Development
>> Seattle WA USA
>> 
>> http://kevinlatona.com/
>> http://studiosola.com/
>> http://linkedin.com/in/kevinlatona
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Andrew Beyer wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Mike Orr <[email protected]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> So, I propose a web-based oracle which would do the equivalent. It
>>>> would have multiple gangs: "Linux Answer Gang", "Python Answer  
>>>> Gang",
>>>> and potentially others. The public would submit questions, answerers
>>>> would answer them, and an editor would collect the monthly ones into
>>>> an "issue", and make an index of topics (a knowledge base).
>>>> Potentially the editor role could be automated, with "articles" on  
>>>> the
>>>> side for human pontificating. The indexing role could also be
>>>> automated using tags. If anyone is interested in this, we can form a
>>>> group to explore it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Interesting idea. I wonder if you wouldn't be better off building  
>>> this
>>> on top of one or more of the stackexchange sites...editing and
>>> curating Q&A from there, rather than trying to build a new community
>>> around this from scratch?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:43:45 -0700
> From: Nimret Sandhu <[email protected]>
> To: Seattle Python Interest Group <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Sandhu, Jasmine" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [SEAPY] Fwd: Open position
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> Hey Folks,
> 
> just forwarding an open position in case anyone is interested. Please
> contact Jasmine directly @ [email protected] in case you're
> interested.
> 
> cheers,
> nimret
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jasmine Sandhu <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Open position
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Hey Nimret,
> 
> We have another open position in our group. Do you know anyone who is
> looking and maybe interested?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jasmine
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
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