In my case, it was a series of fortuitous accidents.  I'm sure
that's not what you want to hear, since it's not something you 
could replicate.

  (I was a software engineer for almost twenty years, for half a
dozen different companies.  One day, I arrived at work and was
told "We've hired a new Director of Engineering, and he's bringing
in his own team.  We've decided to rename the old team 'Operations'
and assign you the task of building a network to host our services
instead of building them yourselves."  Suddenly, I was a network
engineer instead.
  The plan was to bring in a consultant for a few months to set up
our initial network security, while searching for a permanent person.
But this was 1997, with the Internet bubble still growing mightily,
and affordable network security engineers were pretty thin on the 
ground.  So I inherited what the consultant had set up, and ran
with it.
  When that start-up decided to downsize, I had to decide if I was
a software engineer who had spent a couple of interesting years in
networking, or a network engineer specializing in security who had
some background in software.  I'd found something I loved, so I
opted for the latter; two employers later, that's what I'm still
doing.)

David Gillett


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duffy Hazelhurst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: August 11, 2003 17:08
> To: Mike West; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Getting In
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> I can't wait to see the reply, I'd love to know the answer myself.
> 
> Duffy
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Getting In
> 
> 
> Guys
> 
> I know you have probably been asked this question many times 
> but here goes.
> 
> I am currently a security enthusiast and employed as a 
> software developer
> for a large Telco company however I would like to get into 
> the security
> field but I am finding it a very tight market to get into.
> 
> How would be the best way to make a start in the Security 
> field. As I have
> found that most company's will not look at your CV unless you 
> have had 2
> years proffesional experience/certification and you can't get a
> certification until you have the experience etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Mike
> 
> 
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