Gary, I can well remember those days. I think we were able to handle it
quite well even if we had no disaster recovery plan at hands. However, that
was a zero day exploit in the wild.

Unfortunately, directed attacks are a lot nastier. Imagine a mail bot
spamming all mailbox to the storage limit within minutes. There are many
other rather simple methods to achieve effective DOS.

In a volunteer organization of individuals doing stuff in their freetime,
simple things like an international call are unfeasible. I estimate a call
from italy to usa to be ~ 1.48€ / 1.62$ per minute. Frankly, I wouldn't do
that but rather get my family and friends a pizza with free drinks. Sorry
Gary, dont expect long talks with me by phone. :-))

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024, 17:56 Gary Gregory, <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For Log4Shell, we used Slack and video conferences (can't recall which
> vendor).
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024, 11:24 AM Shawn McKinney <smckin...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Oct 10, 2024, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Schultz <
> > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > I’m not sure it’s really okay to simply say “oh well internet is down,
> > not my problem”, though I suppose it depends upon the criticality of your
> > particular project.
> >
> > The exercise’s intent was to take us out of our comfort zone. A thought
> > experiment of a worst case scenario.
> >
> > It brought back memories of 9/11.
> >
> > Hysterical, or, practical?
> >
> > Time will tell. In the meantime we contemplated how we’d “circle the
> > wagons” during one of these hypothetical coordinated attacks.
> >
> > Since (most?) PMC’s communicate via email lists, its asynchronous nature
> > was called into question.
> >
> > What if we had to get ahold of the team RIGHT NOW?  How would we do it?
> >
> > Meanwhile, I’m having trouble sleeping at night and starting to wish that
> > I didn’t quit smoking 25 years ago, missing its calming effects.
> >
> > —
> > Shawn
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