On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 09:53:00PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > Indeed, and we are not required to make it work for everyone. > > You've misunderstood the problem. It's not that GNU Radio Foundation, > Inc. is not taking actions to make something work, it's that GRFI has > taken actions to break something that was working. They have > "stopped" tor wget users from making use of freedom 0.
It is sad to hear that "we are not required to make it work for everyone". I understand it is personal opinion of Alfred, as I am sure there is full intention by the FSF to make software available to everyone. While it is not directly relevant to Freedom 0 that a software package cannot be downloaded in some cases, by using Tor, it is lack of policy on FSF/GNU side, to permit GNU software to be distributed from such freedom denying service providers such as CloudFlare. Let us review what this page says on GNU.org website: http://www.gnu.org/server/select-language.html?callback=/ Quoting: If you're concerned about your privacy on the Web you can try the Tor Browser Bundle available from https://torproject.org/. Among many other improvements over generic browsers with regard to privacy, the TBB comes configured to appear to be like a Windows-based, US-English browser. You're right that the language setting of your browser can be used by some sites or third-parties to identify your specific browser and target you for advertising. Tor provides the safest way we know to avoid such targeting. Nevertheless, the GNU project does not use this nor any other targeting methods, not even cookies (exception made of the optional language override mentioned above): we simply care for our users and have no interest in spying on you. The Accept-Language header is a common way to localize contents according to user preferences. You can learn more about it from the W3C. End of quote. "We simply care about our users and have no interest in spying on you". This alone is to show that there is a somewhat a lack of policy on GNU/FSF side, on how this care is implemented. As it should not be just implemented on www.gnu.org, rather it should stretch to all GNU software equivale and consistently. Finally, when Tor is recommended by GNU website, than Tor should be allowed to access each and every GNU software piece. Discarding this matter too easy "if it does not work for you, it is not my problem" -- is simply not the solution. Myself, I can hardly understand why GNU packages are spread around on multiple sites. I was downloading many of them myself, and many websites did not even work. Software get lost that way, some of software become vaporware. It should rather have its place on GNU servers. CloudFlare is deteriorating the freedom to access the software, and it should be good decision for GNU software NOT to host or use CloudFlare services. Jean
