On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:36:04PM -0800, Darren.Reed at Sun.COM wrote:
> Nicolas Williams wrote:
> >...
> >Applications like Gaim could also do what ssh(1) does: encrypt secrets
> >in some passphrase and prompt the user for the passphrase instead of the
> >actual secret.  Firefox supports this, for example.
> 
> Right.  The idea is that rather than have n applications doing
> it "their own way", provide a common API or place for them
> to put said data.

That I don't dispute.  If nothing else it helps make sure that the
crypto is done right.  GNOME has a keyring manager that might be
relevant here.

I do, however, object to putting NWAM and Gaim in the same category.

What you propose does little or nothing for NWAM, but plenty for Gaim.

> >...
> >System applications ultimately have to store secrets in hardware tokens
> >or in cleartext locally.  Scrambling such secrets doesn't help.
> 
> I disagree.  Between those black and white options, there are
> quite a few "grey" ones inbetween.

Yes, there is some grey.  Encrypted ZFS boot, for example, would secure
system secrets while the system is not running.

Nico
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