Richard - you are right! Much as it would be entertaining to bring down the internet with our lowly plans...
-----Original Message----- From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Smith via SEGMIN Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:45 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Richard Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test yes, I agree that having a searchable archive is useful. Be careful about having one list as a member of another. Might you might get into an infinite loop? Regards Richard Smith -----Original Message----- From: Ian MacLeod via SEGMIN <[email protected]> To: segmin <[email protected]> Cc: Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2018 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test All, Just coming around to this, and I agree with Sean and Richard, this is a good plan. I would suggest that in the transition period we add the lyris segmin list as a member to the new SEGMIN list, so messages to the old system will get double-posted. The message volume is pretty low so it is no great effort for someone to also contact posters using the old list, with a reminder to all to use the new list. And I suggest we perhaps push a reminder twice a week during the transition, acknowledging that we will ne noisy during transition, but after, say September 17 everything should be back to normal on the new list. Note that one thing I did was to reinstate membership of "The Mail Archive" in the new list. This membership was dropped from the old list when we moved to Lyris, which you can see from the last post from Samir before the new list started up. This was January 29, 2003, and I think that was just an oversight. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/index.html The nice thing about the archive is that it is google searchable, which is how I found it again. Our recent posts are there since I added it in. I like this, and hope you agree. Ian -----Original Message----- From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Smith via SEGMIN Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:53 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Richard Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test Hi Jason/Sean If you cannot implement 2 and 4 I don't think it is critical. Someone (Sean or anyone) can just send everyone posting to the list a reminder or occasional message manually. If it goes to everyone on the list, no harm. We can probably have both systems running in parallel for longer than a few weeks. So Sean, I think the spirit of your schedule is fine, the details do not matter too much. Regards Richard Smith -----Original Message----- From: Jason Chambers via SEGMIN <[email protected]> To: segmin <[email protected]>; Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> Cc: Jason Chambers <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2018 9:10 am Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test Hi Sean, I know we can modify the header/footer of an email post that goes through Segmin. But, I do not believe we can send a separate email to the user informing to move to new list. I'll have to do further research on this. I am also able to produce a members list to you in CSV form which will include their membership status such as subscribed, unsubscribed or held. Jason Chambers Network Administrator | Geosoft geosoft.com | blog | twitter | linkedIn | facebook | T +1 416.369.0111 #344 | M +1 416.508.1410 -----Original Message----- From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sean Walker (CWG) via SEGMIN Sent: July 19, 2018 9:04 AM To: [email protected]; Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> Cc: Sean Walker (CWG) <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test Hi Ian, I think it looks great. Next steps. I was thinking of a few things. 1) we want to let people know about the change knowing full well that many people ignore their emails on a regular basis 2) there should be some transition period 3) people don't like spam So a possible solution would be the following 1) On September 5th send out a message informing people that change is coming. The new list SEGMIN system is up an running and they can switch. The old lyris SEGMIN system will remain in place until October 12th (Friday before the SEG AM). People will be given instructions to join the new list serve and the message will also state that communications on the lyris segmin will end on September 17th. 2) During the transition period between Sept 5th the 17th all posts to the lyris system will include a header stating that communications on the lyris listserve will stop on Sept 17th and that they should really be on the new system. 3) On Sept 17th we send out a welcome email on the new list serve. In that email we mention that people should unsubscribe from the lyris list in order to avoid getting a bunch of spam about leaving lyris on Sept 24, Oct 1, and Oct 8. 4) After Sept 17th anyone trying to post to the lyris SEGMIN will receive an email telling that it is no longer in use and that they should sign up for the new lists SEGMIN. 5) On Sept 24, Oct 1, and Oct 8 we send reminders to people left on the old lyris list. 6) On October 12th a final reminder will go out to everyone on the old lyris list stating that it will be shut down and everyone unsubscribed. 7) In November we can advertise the end of the old segmin list and the official beginning of the new SEGMIN list server in the KEGS Bulletin, BCGS Bulletin, Saskatchewan GS etc... I will also mention it during the SEG mining sessions. A few questions. Are #2 and #4 possible with the lyris system? For #6 I would need to have permission to send messages on lyris (where everyone else's had been revoked) or I would require getting a snapshot of the list membership on or close to the 24th, Oct 1, Oct 8 and Oct 12th and email those people directly. Being allowed to send via lyris would be preferred. Let me know what you think. Sean Sean Walker, M.Sc., P.Geo. Senior Geophysicist --------------------------------------------------- Campbell & Walker Geophysics Ltd. 11 Maritime Street Edinburgh, EH6 6SB, Scotland --------------------------------------------------- Office: +44 (0) 131 624 8924 Mobile: +44 (0) 778 056 7245 email: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------- Registered in Scotland #SC431537 On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sean (via the new SEGMIN list), > > I think we are good to go. Just wondering about next steps? Would you > like to announce the list change, or would you like me to put my > armour on and give it a shot? As for timing, maybe best to wait for > September when we have a better chance for folks from both hemispheres > paying attention to their e-mail? > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sean > Walker > (CWG) via SEGMIN > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sean Walker (CWG) <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > If it fixes the name problem I am all for it. > > I was all for it anyways. Excellent job Jason. And thanks again to > Geosoft and Ian for providing this valuable service. > > Sean > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.geosoft.com/mailman/private/segmin/attachments/20180719/5b085870/attachment.html> ----------------------- SEGMIN community mailing list service ([email protected]). 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