All Sounds good.
Agreed details ate not key at this point. Lots of reminders and a period of overlap with manual dual posting sounds good. I'll start working on emails as September will come sooner than we all expect. Sean On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 20:46 Ian MacLeod via SEGMIN, <[email protected]> wrote: > Richard - you are right! Much as it would be entertaining to bring down > the internet with our lowly plans... > > -----Original Message----- > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard > Smith via SEGMIN > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Richard Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > > yes, I agree that having a searchable archive is useful. > > Be careful about having one list as a member of another. Might you might > get into an infinite loop? > > > > > Regards > Richard Smith > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian MacLeod via SEGMIN <[email protected]> > To: segmin <[email protected]> > Cc: Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2018 3:38 pm > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > All, > > Just coming around to this, and I agree with Sean and Richard, this is a > good plan. I would suggest that in the transition period we add the lyris > segmin list as a member to the new SEGMIN list, so messages to the old > system will get double-posted. The message volume is pretty low so it is no > great effort for someone to also contact posters using the old list, with a > reminder to all to use the new list. > > And I suggest we perhaps push a reminder twice a week during the > transition, acknowledging that we will ne noisy during transition, but > after, say September 17 everything should be back to normal on the new list. > > Note that one thing I did was to reinstate membership of "The Mail > Archive" in the new list. This membership was dropped from the old list > when we moved to Lyris, which you can see from the last post from Samir > before the new list started up. This was January 29, 2003, and I think that > was just an oversight. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/index.html > > The nice thing about the archive is that it is google searchable, which is > how I found it again. Our recent posts are there since I added it in. I > like this, and hope you agree. > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard > Smith via SEGMIN > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Richard Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > > Hi Jason/Sean > > If you cannot implement 2 and 4 I don't think it is critical. Someone > (Sean or anyone) can just send everyone posting to the list a reminder or > occasional message manually. If it goes to everyone on the list, no harm. > > We can probably have both systems running in parallel for longer than a > few weeks. > > So Sean, I think the spirit of your schedule is fine, the details do not > matter too much. > > > > Regards > Richard Smith > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Chambers via SEGMIN <[email protected]> > To: segmin <[email protected]>; Ian MacLeod < > [email protected]> > Cc: Jason Chambers <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2018 9:10 am > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > Hi Sean, > > I know we can modify the header/footer of an email post that goes through > Segmin. But, I do not believe we can send a separate email to the user > informing to move to new list. I'll have to do further research on this. I > am also able to produce a members list to you in CSV form which will > include their membership status such as subscribed, unsubscribed or held. > > Jason Chambers > Network Administrator | Geosoft > geosoft.com | blog | twitter | linkedIn | facebook | T +1 416.369.0111 > #344 | M +1 416.508.1410 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sean Walker > (CWG) via SEGMIN > Sent: July 19, 2018 9:04 AM > To: [email protected]; Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> > Cc: Sean Walker (CWG) <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > Hi Ian, > > I think it looks great. > > Next steps. > > I was thinking of a few things. > > 1) we want to let people know about the change knowing full well that many > people ignore their emails on a regular basis > 2) there should be some transition period > 3) people don't like spam > > So a possible solution would be the following > > 1) On September 5th send out a message informing people that change is > coming. The new list SEGMIN system is up an running and they can switch. > The old lyris SEGMIN system will remain in place until October 12th > (Friday before the SEG AM). People will be given instructions to join the > new list serve and the message will also state that communications on the > lyris segmin will end on September 17th. > 2) During the transition period between Sept 5th the 17th all posts to the > lyris system will include a header stating that communications on the lyris > listserve will stop on Sept 17th and that they should really be on the new > system. > 3) On Sept 17th we send out a welcome email on the new list serve. In that > email we mention that people should unsubscribe from the lyris list in > order to avoid getting a bunch of spam about leaving lyris on Sept 24, Oct > 1, and Oct 8. > 4) After Sept 17th anyone trying to post to the lyris SEGMIN will receive > an email telling that it is no longer in use and that they should sign up > for the new lists SEGMIN. > 5) On Sept 24, Oct 1, and Oct 8 we send reminders to people left on the > old lyris list. > 6) On October 12th a final reminder will go out to everyone on the old > lyris list stating that it will be shut down and everyone unsubscribed. > 7) In November we can advertise the end of the old segmin list and the > official beginning of the new SEGMIN list server in the KEGS Bulletin, BCGS > Bulletin, Saskatchewan GS etc... I will also mention it during the SEG > mining sessions. > > A few questions. > Are #2 and #4 possible with the lyris system? > For #6 I would need to have permission to send messages on lyris (where > everyone else's had been revoked) or I would require getting a snapshot of > the list membership on or close to the 24th, Oct 1, Oct 8 and Oct 12th and > email those people directly. Being allowed to send via lyris would be > preferred. > > Let me know what you think. > > Sean > > Sean Walker, M.Sc., P.Geo. > Senior Geophysicist > --------------------------------------------------- > Campbell & Walker Geophysics Ltd. > 11 Maritime Street > Edinburgh, EH6 6SB, Scotland > --------------------------------------------------- > Office: +44 (0) 131 624 8924 > Mobile: +44 (0) 778 056 7245 > email: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------- > Registered in Scotland #SC431537 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ian MacLeod <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Sean (via the new SEGMIN list), > > > > I think we are good to go. Just wondering about next steps? Would you > > like to announce the list change, or would you like me to put my > > armour on and give it a shot? As for timing, maybe best to wait for > > September when we have a better chance for folks from both hemispheres > > paying attention to their e-mail? > > > > Ian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sean > > Walker > > (CWG) via SEGMIN > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:11 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Sean Walker (CWG) <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] SEGMIN Test > > > > If it fixes the name problem I am all for it. > > > > I was all for it anyways. Excellent job Jason. 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