On Thursday 15 March 2007 10:35, Lukasz Bolikowski wrote: > First of all, sorry for posting to swikig, I thought it was > dedicated to Semantic MediaWiki. Let's continue this exchange > on semediawiki-devel only. > > S Page wrote: > > I'm curious how fixing one or both of a) and b) would help you. Are you > > hoping to make it easier to copy and paste English "setup" pages like > > [[Attribute:Mass] with its [[has type::Type:Mass]], or are you hoping to > > copy and paste general English articles and get a bit of semantics from > > them? If so, maybe it would be better to provide some kind of "machine > > translation" of English facts into Polish, using MediaWiki's > > interlanguage links (e.g. [[pl:Typ:Liczba zmiennoprzecinkowa ]]) on each > > page. If you hope to do something else altogether, please say. > > Actually, I needed this for a rather trivial reason. I've installed SMW > on my wiki to try it out, annotated the wiki a bit, and after some time > decided to translate SMW to Polish. After the translation, "has type" > was no longer a special property, all the attributes were gone because > of namespace changes, etc. I know this seems like a very rare case, > which only happens to the translators, but it is a bit more common: > imagine another Polish wiki running on localized MediaWiki, with SMW > extension. They annotate their articles using English names, since > SMW was not translated to Polish at the time they installed it. When > the wiki upgrades its SMW at some point in the future, they will be > rather disappointed, since their semantics are going to be unusable > after the upgrade.
I agree. English fallbacks should usually be helpful. Another option would be to allow users to explicitly make use of the English names only, which some of our users also had asked for some time ago. So it is not such a rare requirement ... We will have to think about how to implement this. Also thanks for the translation. When updating SMW, we will try to create stubs for all new or modified messages, adding a note "//TODO: translate" to the language files. In this way, translators should be able to update their language files easily. Regards, Markus > _______________________________________________ > swikig mailing list > swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de > http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/mailman/listinfo/swikig -- Markus Krötzsch Institute AIFB, University of Karlsruhe, D-76128 Karlsruhe [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone +49 (0)721 608 7362 www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/WBS/ fax +49 (0)721 693 717
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