Markus, I was reading this thread and just thought I'd throw my thoughts in. I've already been thinking about how I might do an AJAX-like cross- wiki query for geographic point data within Semantic Layers--e.g. I'm planning to build pluggable search modules into the software, so an obvious one would be to search a remote SMW/SL wiki. So I had already considered giving SL its own AJAX-friendly data service special page (which would output OpenLayers' tab-separated text data format)...but if there was an SMW general solution to this kind of use case, that would be awesome and I'd definitely find a way to use it.
-Matt On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > On Freitag, 14. März 2008, Sergey Chernyshev wrote: >> Other stores is a good news. Do you have any particular stores in >> mind or >> is it going to use SPARQL/UPDATE or something? > > We started with RAP, since its binding to PHP is easiest. But the > improved > architecture gives very easy access to RDF/OWL-like data that can be > written > to basically any semantic store that one can address from PHP. > >> I think several people voiced their interest in SMW scaling and >> incorporating into a more standard chain of tools. > > Yes, that is also why we pushed that development. Having SPARQL > interfaces > should further simplify the integration with other tools. > >> >> But besides that, I believe that incorporating features already >> available >> withing MW instance (through SMW extension) into API is a good idea >> in >> general - otherwise people will use screen scraping ;) > > Yes, SMW already exports all of its data in a very standard way, but > people > obviously are too lazy to reuse raw data -- they want to just > forward their > queries directly ;-) We also look at SMW-to-SMW data exchange as an > interesting project (i.e. querying an external SMW-instance via #ask). > Volunteers for that project are certainly welcome :-) > > Markus > >> >> Sergey >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Markus Krötzsch >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >>> On Freitag, 14. März 2008, Andreas Wombacher wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I would like to know whether there is somebody now working on an >>>> ask >>>> api. I need such an api and if there is no one working on it would >>>> consider doing it myself. >>>> If you are already working on it, is there maybe a possibility to >>>> get a >>>> pre-view ;-) >>> >>> We are not directly working on that, but we are progressing with the >>> optional >>> support for RDF/OWL stores to be used with SMW. And those stores do >>> already >>> have various APIs that one might use (for querying, webservices >>> based on >>> the >>> SPARQL query language and result format are usually available). >>> >>> We also have considered direct support for "remote ask" but did >>> not find >>> time >>> to do it yet. This would need some idea on how to best encode >>> results of >>> such >>> a format. Some XML format is used in SPARQL, but they have only at >>> most >>> one >>> value per "table cell" whereas #ask has a list in each table cell. >>> One >>> could >>> also make an XML container based on a simple RDF-encoding, or just >>> use >>> some >>> ad hoc XML as seems useful. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Markus >>> >>>> Sergey Chernyshev wrote: >>>>> No, actually, API is there for a while already, I'm using it on >>>>> 1.11and I think it was available even before that. >>>>> In any case, aiming at older (much older) version of MediaWiki >>>>> is not >>> >>> a >>> >>>>> very good idea - SMW itself require MediaWiki 1.11 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Greenman, Ronald (NIH/CIT) [C] >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The problem with that API is that extending it cleanly requires >>>>> MediaWiki 1.12. However, MediaWiki also has an AJAX framework >>> >>> that's >>> >>>>> been around for a lot longer and allows for clean extensions in >>>>> older versions (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Ajax). >>>>> I've >>>>> been considering experimenting with this route. >>>>> >>>>> Beecher Greenman >>>>> NIH Contractor (SRA) >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>>> *From:* Sergey Chernyshev >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:21 PM >>>>> *To:* Andreas Wombacher >>>>> *Cc:* semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> <mailto:semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] semantic wiki query AJAX api >>>>> >>>>> I'm interested in this feature too. Actually I was researching >>>>> MediaWiki API (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API) and it >>>>> seams to >>> >>> be >>> >>>>> quite simple to extend for ask query implementation. >>>>> >>>>> Sergey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 12, 2008 6:45 AM, Andreas Wombacher >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering whether there is an API for building richer >>>>> clients using >>>>> semantic annotations of the wiki via an XML RPC or REST or >>>>> any other kind of API which copuld be facilitated using AJAX? >>>>> >>>>> best regards >>>>> Andreas >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>> Defy all challenges. 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