Matt Williamson schrieb: > Markus, > > I was reading this thread and just thought I'd throw my thoughts in. > I've already been thinking about how I might do an AJAX-like cross- > wiki query for geographic point data within Semantic Layers--e.g. I'm > planning to build pluggable search modules into the software, so an > obvious one would be to search a remote SMW/SL wiki. So I had already > considered giving SL its own AJAX-friendly data service special page > (which would output OpenLayers' tab-separated text data format)...but > if there was an SMW general solution to this kind of use case, that > would be awesome and I'd definitely find a way to use it. >
We're planning to implement a webservice interface for ASK queries (as part of the Halo-Project), so that other people can contribute with some client applications. If we have a triple store attached (sometime in future), it will also support SPAQRL as query language not only ASK. Maybe it will also support a subset of SPARQL which can be answered by the SMW Reasoner even if there is no triple store. Cheers, Kai > -Matt > > > On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > > >> On Freitag, 14. März 2008, Sergey Chernyshev wrote: >> >>> Other stores is a good news. Do you have any particular stores in >>> mind or >>> is it going to use SPARQL/UPDATE or something? >>> >> We started with RAP, since its binding to PHP is easiest. But the >> improved >> architecture gives very easy access to RDF/OWL-like data that can be >> written >> to basically any semantic store that one can address from PHP. >> >> >>> I think several people voiced their interest in SMW scaling and >>> incorporating into a more standard chain of tools. >>> >> Yes, that is also why we pushed that development. Having SPARQL >> interfaces >> should further simplify the integration with other tools. >> >> >>> But besides that, I believe that incorporating features already >>> available >>> withing MW instance (through SMW extension) into API is a good idea >>> in >>> general - otherwise people will use screen scraping ;) >>> >> Yes, SMW already exports all of its data in a very standard way, but >> people >> obviously are too lazy to reuse raw data -- they want to just >> forward their >> queries directly ;-) We also look at SMW-to-SMW data exchange as an >> interesting project (i.e. querying an external SMW-instance via #ask). >> Volunteers for that project are certainly welcome :-) >> >> Markus >> >> >>> Sergey >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Markus Krötzsch >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Freitag, 14. März 2008, Andreas Wombacher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to know whether there is somebody now working on an >>>>> ask >>>>> api. I need such an api and if there is no one working on it would >>>>> consider doing it myself. >>>>> If you are already working on it, is there maybe a possibility to >>>>> get a >>>>> pre-view ;-) >>>>> >>>> We are not directly working on that, but we are progressing with the >>>> optional >>>> support for RDF/OWL stores to be used with SMW. And those stores do >>>> already >>>> have various APIs that one might use (for querying, webservices >>>> based on >>>> the >>>> SPARQL query language and result format are usually available). >>>> >>>> We also have considered direct support for "remote ask" but did >>>> not find >>>> time >>>> to do it yet. This would need some idea on how to best encode >>>> results of >>>> such >>>> a format. Some XML format is used in SPARQL, but they have only at >>>> most >>>> one >>>> value per "table cell" whereas #ask has a list in each table cell. >>>> One >>>> could >>>> also make an XML container based on a simple RDF-encoding, or just >>>> use >>>> some >>>> ad hoc XML as seems useful. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sergey Chernyshev wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, actually, API is there for a while already, I'm using it on >>>>>> 1.11and I think it was available even before that. >>>>>> In any case, aiming at older (much older) version of MediaWiki >>>>>> is not >>>>>> >>>> a >>>> >>>> >>>>>> very good idea - SMW itself require MediaWiki 1.11 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Greenman, Ronald (NIH/CIT) [C] >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem with that API is that extending it cleanly requires >>>>>> MediaWiki 1.12. However, MediaWiki also has an AJAX framework >>>>>> >>>> that's >>>> >>>> >>>>>> been around for a lot longer and allows for clean extensions in >>>>>> older versions (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Ajax). >>>>>> I've >>>>>> been considering experimenting with this route. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beecher Greenman >>>>>> NIH Contractor (SRA) >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>>>> *From:* Sergey Chernyshev >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:21 PM >>>>>> *To:* Andreas Wombacher >>>>>> *Cc:* semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> <mailto:semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] semantic wiki query AJAX api >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm interested in this feature too. Actually I was researching >>>>>> MediaWiki API (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API) and it >>>>>> seams to >>>>>> >>>> be >>>> >>>> >>>>>> quite simple to extend for ask query implementation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sergey >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 12, 2008 6:45 AM, Andreas Wombacher >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am wondering whether there is an API for building richer >>>>>> clients using >>>>>> semantic annotations of the wiki via an XML RPC or REST or >>>>>> any other kind of API which copuld be facilitated using AJAX? >>>>>> >>>>>> best regards >>>>>> Andreas >>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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