Hey,
After my GSoC project ends, I will remain active in the community, continue to
support both extensions, and very probably continue on improving them. To what
extend will ofcourse depend on how much work I'll have at university.
When released, both extensions will have roughly the same size as they have
now. Maps is by far the largest, couse it contains the Open Layers API.
Semantic Maps will be pretty small, and should therefore not form any problem
when putting the code into SRF. So, as I see it, there are two advantages to
ading the SM code to SRF: easier to distribute and a bigger user base. And 2
disadvantages: it adds prerequests to the map functionallity in SRF (SF &
Maps), and it's less easy to maintain. IMHO this is not very conclusive, and I
think that unless there are more arguments, it's best to let it be as it is for
the moment.
Sergey: Thanks for your suggestions, they are all valid, and I'll implement
some of them before the first release.
Markus: Thanks for pointing out the links/footnote stuff.
Any more suggestions about Maps and Semantic Maps?
Cheers,
De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen
Forum: code.bn2vs.com
Blog: blog.bn2vs.com
Xfire: bn2vs ; Skype: rts.bn.vs
Don't panic. Don't be evil.
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From: Markus Krötzsch <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>
To: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Sergey Chernyshev <sergey.chernys...@gmail.com>; jeroen De Dauw
<jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:49:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps
On Mittwoch, 15. Juli 2009, Sergey Chernyshev wrote:
> Great news, Jaroen! It's great to see that Mapping becomes more of the
> generic solution.
+1, having a single (semantic) mapping extension is certainly a worthy goal.
Including this (the semantic part) into SRF would be useful if the required
code is not overly large. This would simplify distribution and increase the
user base, I believe. It would also let you use SRF's translatewiki.net
account for internationalization.
SRF can also include experimental software, but it is of course desirable that
somebody is in charge of maintaining each component. Are you supporting this
code after the GSoC time ends, or is someone else expected to take over?
Regards,
Markus
P.S. Our public online emails archives do (for security reasons) only show
plain text versions of emails, but the plain text part of your email contains
no hints that you included hyperlinks (bad HTML serializer ...). It would thus
be useful to include URLs explicitly (using "[1]" style footnotes for long
URLs), so that people browsing mails online can also access them. I guess this
also applies to subscribers who use email digests or text-only email clients.
P.P.S. This said, here are the relevant links:
* Maps: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps
* Sem' Maps: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps
* Source code: http://ext.bn2vs.com/mw-map-extensionz.zip
* Updates on Jeroen's blog: http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/
>
> I have a few suggestions though:
>
> Maps:
>
> - I think default mapping service should be configurable through the
> LocalSettings.php using some global variable.
> - Mapping services available to the users should also be configurable as
> an array of available services.
> - it's probably a good idea to remove (or make optional) primary
> parameter name - coordinates for display_point and address for
> display_address. This way default calls can be abbreviated to
> *{{#display_point:55.7557860,
> 37.6176330}}* and *{{#display_address:Moscow, Russia}}* which should
> simplify usage significantly.
> - Also, for map types, I think Yahoo provides all the types Google
> provides and it's worth adding too (it's probably in your plans anyway)
> - I'll also recommend adding zoombox definition by boundary coordinates
> or radius around the points - this might be very useful, but harder to
> implement.
>
> Similar suggestions for the Semantic Maps:
>
> - add generic map format that will use default configuration for the
> Maps extension, e.g.
>
> {{#ask:[[Category:Locations]]|?Has coordinates|format=map}}
>
>
> I'm not sure if moving Semantic Maps as a whole into SRF is necessarily a
> good idea as it adds some functionality to Semantic Forms and therefore has
> it as prerequisite - it might be reasonable to move map display code to
> SRF, but then it's not clear if having forms code separately in another
> extension is viable.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sergey
>
>
> --
> Sergey Chernyshev
> http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM, jeroen De Dauw
<jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > First of all, let me introduce myself.
> > I'm Jeroen De Dauw, one of the GSoC students for Wikimedia foundation
> > this year. I'm working on a map extension for Semantic
> > MediaWiki<http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki>with
> > Yaron Koren <http://yaronkoren.com/> as mentor.
> >
> > During the last 2 months I've been working on this extension (which has
> > actually split into 2 seperate extensions:
> > Maps<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps>and Semantic Maps
> > <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps> - click the links
> > for more info about either extension), and I'm reaching the final stage
> > before the first release. I'd like to get some feedback on the code and
> > overall structure of the extensions before I continue, to ensure no mayor
> > design flaws are present.
> >
> > You can get the code for both extensions
> > here<http://ext.bn2vs.com/mw-map-extensionz.zip>. Note that this code is
> > still purely dev material, and should NOT be used in a production
> > environment.
> >
> > One of the big questions about the Semantic Maps code is if it should
> > just be added to Semantic Result Formats or remain separate. What are
> > your opinions about this?
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome. For those who are wondering, if no mayor flaws
> > are found, both extensions will probably be released in a one or two week
> > time frame. (I'm posting updates
> > <http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/> on my blog.)
> > Cheers,
> > De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen
> >
> > Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com>
> > Blog: blog.bn2vs.com
> > Xfire: bn2vs ; Skype: rts.bn.vs
> >
> > Don't panic. Don't be evil.
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> >
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