Hey,
Those services are indeed impressive. Thanks a lot for the awesome suggestion!
I'm going to try to add a handler for this service right away :)
Cheers,
Jeroen De Dauw
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From: Joel Natividad <joel.nativi...@gmail.com>
To: jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com>
Cc: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:30:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
Jeroen,
Have you looked at geonames? They have an impressive list of free web services
(http://www.geonames.org/export/ws-overview.html).
I used them myself for a project 2 years back and its pretty good.
Best,
Joel
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:12 AM, jeroen De Dauw wrote:
Hey,
>
>I see your point. Would you find the geocoding approach acceptible if an open
>source service was available next to the ones of Google and Yahoo? I've been
>seraching for such an altternate and open source service before the 0.2
>release, but simply was unable to find a decent working one. If you know one,
>please let me know!
>
>I'm going to poke Yaron about your suggestion to add the DMS notation, if he
>thinks it's a good idea, I'll implement it before 0.4. Of course, if someone
>feels like doing that, feel free to do so, but give me a poke to avoid double
>work.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Jeroen De Dauw
>
>
>Forum: code.bn2vs.com
>Blog: blog.bn2vs.com
>
>Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs
>
>Don't panic. Don't be evil.
>70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Temlakos <temla...@gmail.com>
>To: jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com>
>Cc: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org
>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:47:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
>
>Jeroen:
>
>Geocoding means using a proprietary service, and getting a license that could
>easily be revoked. I don't know how acquainted you are with American politics,
>but let me tell you this: Google.com has been playing politics with their
>search engine, their tools, everything. They have rigged their searches to
>push politically conservative and religiously oriented sites to the bottom of
>the rankings--which is why my wiki never bears mention in any search on
>Google, but they bear plenty of good mention on other search engines.
>
>If they have demonstrated their willingness to play politics with their search
>engine, what is to stop them from playing politics with any of their other
>/proprietary/ APIs? A /proprietor/ reserves the right to refuse service to
>anyone, for any reason or no reason.
>
>I don't want to be held at the mercy of any /proprietor/. That rather defeats,
>even violates, the purpose of open-source. I want to be able to do all my maps
>on OpenLayers, and stay away from Google, if I can. I'm not even sure that our
>license (the GFDL) would even /allow/ us to do anything else. That aside, we
>have a policy to stay a million kilometers away from anything that even hints
>at a legal encumbrance.
>
>Besides: some of my sites are ancient, and might not even exist anymore. For
>such sites, geocoding, even /open-source/ geocoding, would be flatly
>impossible.
>
>Temlakos
>
>jeroen De Dauw wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> >Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a
>> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and
>> seconds?
>> No, they do not support that notation. It would not be that hard to
>> implement, but no one has asked for it before, so I guess the demand is
>> pretty low.
>> Is simply geocoding the actual addresses with the build in #geocode parser
>> function [0] not an option? That way you can avoid having to work with
>> coordinates all together.
>>
>> [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps#Geocoding
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeroen De Dauw
>> Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com>
>> Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com>
>> Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs
>>
>> Don't panic. Don't be evil.
>> 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65!
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Temlakos <temla...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
>> mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:18:19 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
>>
>> Dear Jeroen:
>>
>> Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a
>> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and
>> seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use
>> floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert,
>> and that seems rather pointless to me.
>>
>> What I would like to do is design a template for a settlement, or a
>> landmark (e.g., mountain, hill, valley), that will include a map of the
>> immediate region and automatically place a marker at the specified
>> coordinates in the article on that settlement or landmark.
>>
>> A query formatted as a map with many points on it looks great. And it
>> would be wonderful for an article on a country, because I could place
>> markers for every city and/or landmark in that country. But when I write
>> an article for a city or a mountain, I annotate coordinates in degrees,
>> minutes, and seconds. Or must I get used to specifying them in floats?
>>
>> Temlakos
>>
>> jeroen De Dauw wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > First of all, let me introduce myself.
>> > I'm Jeroen De Dauw, one of the GSoC students for Wikimedia foundation
>> > this year. During the last 2 months I've been working on 2 new mapping
>> > extensions for MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki
>> > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki> [0] with Yaron
>> > Koren <http://yaronkoren.com/> [1] as mentor. You can read more about
>> > this at my blog <http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/> [2].
>> >
>> > The first version of both extensions has just been released. These are
>> > the extensions:
>> >
>> > Maps
>> > Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps> [3] is an
>> > extension that provides the ability to display coordinate data, using
>> > multiple mapping services, including Google Maps [4], OpenLayers [5]
>> > and Yahoo Maps [6], and allows users to geocode addresses.
>> >
>> > Semantic Maps
>> > Semantic Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps>
>> > [7] is an extension that adds semantic capabilities to the Maps
>> > extension, and therefore provides the ability to add, view and edit
>> > coordinate data stored through the Semantic MediaWiki extension, using
>> > multiple mapping services. These include Google Maps, OpenLayers and
>> > Yahoo Maps. Semantic Maps and Maps are based on Semantic Google Maps
>> > and Semantic Layers, and are meant to replace these extensions. For
>> > this extension to work, you need to have both Semantic MediaWiki and
>> > Maps installed.
>> >
>> > You can download both extensions via their documentation pages.
>> > Suggestions and feature requests are welcome.
>> >
>> > [0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki
>> > [1] http://yaronkoren.com/
>> > [2] http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/
>> > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps
>> > [4] http://code.google.com/apis/maps/
>> > [5] http://openlayers.org/
>> > [6] http://developer.yahoo.com/maps/
>> > [7] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps
>> > > Cheers,
>> > De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen
>> > > Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com>
>> > Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com>
>> > Xfire: bn2vs ; Skype: rts.bn.vs
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>> > Don't panic. Don't be evil.
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