On Freitag, 28. Mai 2010, Dan Bolser wrote:
> On 28 May 2010 09:55, Markus Krötzsch <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
> > On Freitag, 28. Mai 2010, Dan Bolser wrote:
> >> I guess this should be on the devel list
> >>
> >> On 27 May 2010 15:14, Dan Bolser <dan.bol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > About the fix proposed here:
> >> >
> >> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23679
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Given that plain (unformatted) printout is just a special case of the
> >> > way units are selected, don't you think it's reasonable to suppress
> >> > the output of units when using plain (unformatted) printouts?
> >> >
> >> > i.e. If I say:
> >> >
> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # seconds }}
> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # hours }}
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It's clear that I want the result in seconds or hours, respectively.
> >> >  However, if I say:
> >> >
> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # - }}
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Isn't it clear that I don't want units?
> >
> > The analogy of #- and #unit is not quite correct, because #- is supported
> > by all datatypes while #unit is specific to the numeric types with units.
> > A value that is a (physical) dimension consists of a number multiplied by
> > a quantity (unit), so leaving away the unit would really change the
> > value.
> >
> > But it makes sense to have a way of accessing only the number and maybe
> > also only the unit. We do not have to use #- as the only special format:
> > we can simply have two more formats for the two behaviours. I just need a
> > useful name for them (keeping in mind that the format names should avoid
> > conflicts with names of units that someone might want to use). How about
> > the following?
> >
> > Given a value "12,345.6 km":
> >  #-  for "12345.6 km" (as it is now)
> >  #-n for "12345.6"
> >  #-u for "km"
> 
> Great idea!

Ok, so be it. SVN is updated, the feature will be part of SMW 1.5.1 as 
released next week. I would be grateful if someone could document this in the 
SMW manual (in two places: for Type:Number and for types with custom units).

Markus


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