On 28 May 2010 14:20, Markus Krötzsch <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
> On Freitag, 28. Mai 2010, Dan Bolser wrote:
>> On 28 May 2010 09:55, Markus Krötzsch <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
>> > On Freitag, 28. Mai 2010, Dan Bolser wrote:
>> >> I guess this should be on the devel list
>> >>
>> >> On 27 May 2010 15:14, Dan Bolser <dan.bol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > About the fix proposed here:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23679
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Given that plain (unformatted) printout is just a special case of the
>> >> > way units are selected, don't you think it's reasonable to suppress
>> >> > the output of units when using plain (unformatted) printouts?
>> >> >
>> >> > i.e. If I say:
>> >> >
>> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # seconds }}
>> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # hours }}
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > It's clear that I want the result in seconds or hours, respectively.
>> >> >  However, if I say:
>> >> >
>> >> > * {{#show: Some page | ? My property # - }}
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Isn't it clear that I don't want units?
>> >
>> > The analogy of #- and #unit is not quite correct, because #- is supported
>> > by all datatypes while #unit is specific to the numeric types with units.
>> > A value that is a (physical) dimension consists of a number multiplied by
>> > a quantity (unit), so leaving away the unit would really change the
>> > value.
>> >
>> > But it makes sense to have a way of accessing only the number and maybe
>> > also only the unit. We do not have to use #- as the only special format:
>> > we can simply have two more formats for the two behaviours. I just need a
>> > useful name for them (keeping in mind that the format names should avoid
>> > conflicts with names of units that someone might want to use). How about
>> > the following?
>> >
>> > Given a value "12,345.6 km":
>> >  #-  for "12345.6 km" (as it is now)
>> >  #-n for "12345.6"
>> >  #-u for "km"
>>
>> Great idea!
>
> Ok, so be it. SVN is updated, the feature will be part of SMW 1.5.1 as
> released next week. I would be grateful if someone could document this in the
> SMW manual (in two places: for Type:Number and for types with custom units).

Done (under [[Help:Displaying information]]):

* 
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help%3ADisplaying_information&diff=2852&oldid=1861
* 
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help%3ADisplaying_information&diff=2853&oldid=2852


I couldn't see where to fit this information in under [[Help:Custom
units]] or [[Type:Number]].


Cheers,
Dan.

> Markus
>
>
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