On 23/03/11 09:38, Yury Katkov wrote:
> Hello Jesse!
>
> Speaking of performance questions  - some of them were discussed during
> ISWC2010 by
> Daniel M Herzig, Basil Ell in their paper Semantic MediaWiki in
> Operation: Experiences with Building a Semantic Portal. [1]

Right, this also shows that there are different types of problems on 
different sites. The issues in the portal were mainly relating to the 
time needed by MediaWiki for parsing long result lists, and were 
alleviated by better caching and pre-formatting of query results.

- Markus

>
>
> [1] http://iswc2010.semanticweb.org/accepted-papers/397
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Jesse Wang <wjxh...@gmail.com
> <mailto:wjxh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     It'll be interesting to know more details about the performance problems
>     that SMW has at Wikia or in general, because there are many people
>     who use
>     SMW for large scale data integration will be really interested in
>     learning
>     the issues and how to work around them (if they won't be fixed in time).
>
>     Markus and Tim, can you be more specific here?
>     Thanks,
>     Jesse
>
>     On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Markus Krötzsch <
>     mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org
>     <mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>> wrote:
>
>      > On 22/03/11 03:01, Yaron Koren wrote:
>      > > Very interesting... I didn't know that was their official
>     response now.
>      > > I don't think that conveys the full relationship they have with
>     SMW, but
>      > > it's still good to know.
>      >
>      > The performance problems that Wikia has with SMW are very real,
>     even if
>      > caused in no small part by the SMW configuration that is used on the
>      > sites. In any case Wikia runs the largest SMW installations that are
>      > around today, with millions of facts in single databases and complex
>      > queries on top of them.
>      >
>      > We are currently cooperating with Wikia for helping them to improve
>      > performance, and I hope that this will make it easier for them to
>     fully
>      > embrace the use of semantic extensions on their sites.
>      >
>      > - Markus
>      >
>      > >
>      > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Robert Murphy
>     <mrandmrsmur...@gmail.com <mailto:mrandmrsmur...@gmail.com>
>      > > <mailto:mrandmrsmur...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:mrandmrsmur...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      > >
>      > >     Did you all know that this is what wikia sends to people
>     who ask for
>      > >     SMW?!
>      > >     I'm glad I've gone with Referata.
>      > >
>      > >     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>      > >     From: Wikia Support <supp...@wikia-inc.com
>     <mailto:supp...@wikia-inc.com>
>      > > <mailto:supp...@wikia-inc.com <mailto:supp...@wikia-inc.com>>>
>      > >     Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:18 PM
>      > >     Subject: RE: Wikia Contact Mail - Semantic Mediawiki,
>     Semantic Forms,
>      > >     Semantic Drill Down {12501}
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >       [image: Wikia Help]
>      > >
>      > >       Hello ***,
>      > >
>      > >     Thanks for contacting Wikia. Semantic MediaWiki is a very
>     powerful
>      > >     extension. It can let you do some great things on a wiki,
>     but that
>      > power
>      > >     comes at a cost. Queries can make wikis slow, which can be
>      > >     frustrating for
>      > >     visitors. Often, there are less costly extensions or
>     built-in methods
>      > to
>      > >     achieve the same effects. So please consider your request for
>      > Semantic
>      > >     MediaWiki further. A comprehensive guide can be found at
>      > > http://semantic-mediawiki.org
>      > >
>      > >     Even if you do know you need Semantic MediaWiki for a
>     specific task,
>      > we
>      > >     still strongly urge you to take a minute to read the guide.
>      > >
>      > >     If you want to go ahead with this feature, please let us
>     know. Or,
>      > >     let us
>      > >     know what you want to achieve, and we will look to see if
>     there is a
>      > >     better
>      > >     way than Semantic MediaWiki.
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>      > >     Wikia Community Support Team
>      > >
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