On 4 April 2013 16:12, James HK <jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Most user on this list are probably not aware of the current > discussion that takes place on Wikitech-l [1] about "How SMW might > help mw.org/wikitech.org" but what caused a moment of silence was the > following comment. > > "I don't support moving to Semantic MediaWiki, which to me as user > seems like a somewhat arcane and bloated piece of software that will > require me and lots of people to relearn how we write documentation > and project tracking" [2] > > I'm interest to hear if users on this list think that SMW is a > "bloated piece of software" with users generally required "to relearn > how we write"? Are there reason why such misconception exists among > mediawiki users (under the pre-assumption that is not a > misconception)?
I've heard this before. My stock reply is, yeah, it's bloated, but so is MW... Apache... MySQL ... PHP... RedHat... It's really not that much more bloat than we use routinely. > Another issue during the discussion was "general concern has been > scalability and perhaps relatedly the ability of users to execute > poorly optimized queries (maliciously or otherwise)" [3] > > Comments about performance related concerns, are those concerns still > valid for the current release? Are there any hard evidence that > suggests using SMW on a wiki will inevitable decrease performance > (comparing numbers not opinions)? Don't have much to add here, but I once had a look at benchmarking recursive queries: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Benchmarking-results-Was-quot-Re-Recursive-ask-using-format-template-stuck-at-depth-of-3-quot-td578160.html Which didn't show any particular performance hit... Could be easy to test some more examples. Good luck! Dan. > [1] > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/68762 > > [2] > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/68827 > > [3] > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/68846 > > Cheers > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. > Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire > the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the > Employer Resources Portal > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
