On 05/08/2013 11:26 AM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Slowly working on these problems in the individual communities and > codebases seems the way to go. Trying to enlist some SMW devs to make > culture changes in MW core is doomed to fail.
You are, of course, right. If a faction of developers were to decide that they wanted to make MW entirely distributable on Packagist in the next year, they would have to fork the code. That might work in some projects, but the WMF will continue to be the largest individual user of this code, so the fork would suffer. I like the Foundation and I think there is a lot of reason to maintain a virtuous cycle with their use of MediaWiki core, so even though what I said could be taken to in a more radical way, I didn't intend that. I, like the SMW developers, simply don't have time or energy for something so radical. I have bills to pay and rewriting MW core isn't going to help me pay bills. Instead, I was hoping to encourage exactly what you said: "slowly working on these problems..." We run into the problem, though, that if we don't have a shared vision, then accomplishing our goals will take much longer and is that much less likely to happen. Since you are going to be in Amsterdam in a few weeks, perhaps we can talk about this then and start fleshing out some discrete actions that we can all take. Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
