Maybe some more on our release plans for 0.7. We are currently changing many 
things, both internally and w.r.t. certain user interfaces. But the plan is 
to release SMW 0.7 shortly after MediaWiki 1.10 is out (maybe in one or two 
weeks, if I am not mistaken). Since 0.7 is expected to greatly simplify 
installation, waiting for it might have some benefits, but later upgrade 
should be no problem either.

The only task that appears to be critical for the release are a couple of UI 
changes Denny currently implements. If those are stable, I see no problem in 
releasing 0.7.

-- Markus

On Monday 19 March 2007 18:23, Denny Vrandecic wrote:
> Hi Nate, Hi Günther,
>
> thanks for your interest and your kind words.
>
> The changes that Markus mentioned are indeed severe -- but only under
> the hood. Our development strategy is to always be able to point to the
> current SVN version and say "Hey, you can use that!" -- and that's what
> I would encourage anyway. We have now a simple "Update" Button inside
> the wiki, so basically all you need to do is update the SVN and click on
> that one button. That's at least what we hope :)
>
> We don't know for sure when 0.7 will be released. Releasing means for us
> to take a snapshot of the wiki and tag a new version number to it. There
> are no extra tests run on that. Although we do plan to set up regression
> tests and some other goodies very soon! But this again will be something
> that the SVN version will also benefit from. Actually, the whole notion
> of releases is somewhat outdated on the web today...
>
> With regards to the n-ary relations: we are currently investigating
> possible solutions for this problem, and we plan to implement one of
> them in a medium time frame. If you have a clever idea how to represent
> n-ary relations in a generic and still user friendly way, please tell us
> so! We didn't find a solution everyone's happy with yet.
>
> Cheers,
> denny
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to second Nate's thanks to the SMW developers and
> > contributers.
> >
> > I'm also rather new to SMW and have a similar problem/question. I want to
> > use SMW for biological annotation data. It looks for me difficult to
> > accomplish that without using n-ary relations. I came across BOWiki which
> > used SMW 0.4 as basis to integrate and support n-ary relations but as far
> > as I can see their changes are so severe that it is now a different,
> > alternative semantic extention to MediaWiki, incompatible with SMW and so
> > any improvements in SMW couldn't be used there.
> >
> > So my question would be if there are any plans to implement something
> > similar like BOWiki did in SMW to allow n-ary relations or if there is
> > maybe a practical way to use constructs (as suggested in the W3C Working
> > Group article) to implement n-ary like behaviour in SMW resp. specify
> > some sort of qualifiers for a relation?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Günther
> >
> > Quoting Nate Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Greetings, all,
> >>
> >> Over the past month I've been learning about SMW bit by bit, and I
> >> plan to use it as part of a Web-based project I'll be launching
> >> shortly. First things first: My sincere thanks for all the effort
> >> that many have devoted to the project. Even to this SemWeb novice,
> >> it's very cool stuff, and I'm excited to see how it shapes up in the
> >> coming months.
> >>
> >> Second, a basic question: Given current development work and the road
> >> map for stable releases, would you recommend to someone like me to
> >> simply wait until version .7 is released before I even begin using
> >> SMW at all? In other words, are the changes in the .7 code
> >> substantial enough, and is the estimated release date of .7 close
> >> enough, to wait it out?
> >>
> >> My question is prompted by mentions of various code changes sprinkled
> >> around the mailing lists, and perhaps especially by this post from
> >> Markus: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?
> >> msg_id=38122827. I'm in a situation where I can afford to wait a
> >> little while, but on the other hand, if the costs of waiting to
> >> "build out" my SMW-enabled wiki outweigh the benefits, I'd obviousy
> >> rather get on with it!
> >>
> >> Thanks for your time, and I look forward to our discussions ahead. :)
> >>
> >> All best,
> >>
> >> Nate
> >>
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