Thanks to Denny for his earlier thoughts and to you, Markus, for this follow-up. I've decided that I'll wait until the release of 0.7. Hope all the intense code-hammering goes well for you in the interim.
I'll be happy to provide any desired feedback on the installation process for 0.7 when the time comes. I figure that the most valuable contribution I can make to SMW at this point is to give voice to the impressions of a completely new user with little programming or database expertise. (Which, of course, is precisely what I am!) Just let me know. Thanks again, Nate On 25 Mar 07, at 7.45 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > Maybe some more on our release plans for 0.7. We are currently > changing many > things, both internally and w.r.t. certain user interfaces. But the > plan is > to release SMW 0.7 shortly after MediaWiki 1.10 is out (maybe in > one or two > weeks, if I am not mistaken). Since 0.7 is expected to greatly > simplify > installation, waiting for it might have some benefits, but later > upgrade > should be no problem either. > > The only task that appears to be critical for the release are a > couple of UI > changes Denny currently implements. If those are stable, I see no > problem in > releasing 0.7. > > -- Markus > > On Monday 19 March 2007 18:23, Denny Vrandecic wrote: >> Hi Nate, Hi Günther, >> >> thanks for your interest and your kind words. >> >> The changes that Markus mentioned are indeed severe -- but only under >> the hood. Our development strategy is to always be able to point >> to the >> current SVN version and say "Hey, you can use that!" -- and that's >> what >> I would encourage anyway. We have now a simple "Update" Button inside >> the wiki, so basically all you need to do is update the SVN and >> click on >> that one button. That's at least what we hope :) >> >> We don't know for sure when 0.7 will be released. Releasing means >> for us >> to take a snapshot of the wiki and tag a new version number to it. >> There >> are no extra tests run on that. Although we do plan to set up >> regression >> tests and some other goodies very soon! But this again will be >> something >> that the SVN version will also benefit from. Actually, the whole >> notion >> of releases is somewhat outdated on the web today... >> >> With regards to the n-ary relations: we are currently investigating >> possible solutions for this problem, and we plan to implement one of >> them in a medium time frame. If you have a clever idea how to >> represent >> n-ary relations in a generic and still user friendly way, please >> tell us >> so! We didn't find a solution everyone's happy with yet. >> >> Cheers, >> denny >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to second Nate's thanks to the SMW developers and >>> contributers. >>> >>> I'm also rather new to SMW and have a similar problem/question. I >>> want to >>> use SMW for biological annotation data. It looks for me difficult to >>> accomplish that without using n-ary relations. I came across >>> BOWiki which >>> used SMW 0.4 as basis to integrate and support n-ary relations >>> but as far >>> as I can see their changes are so severe that it is now a different, >>> alternative semantic extention to MediaWiki, incompatible with >>> SMW and so >>> any improvements in SMW couldn't be used there. >>> >>> So my question would be if there are any plans to implement >>> something >>> similar like BOWiki did in SMW to allow n-ary relations or if >>> there is >>> maybe a practical way to use constructs (as suggested in the W3C >>> Working >>> Group article) to implement n-ary like behaviour in SMW resp. >>> specify >>> some sort of qualifiers for a relation? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Günther >>> >>> Quoting Nate Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> Greetings, all, >>>> >>>> Over the past month I've been learning about SMW bit by bit, and I >>>> plan to use it as part of a Web-based project I'll be launching >>>> shortly. First things first: My sincere thanks for all the effort >>>> that many have devoted to the project. Even to this SemWeb novice, >>>> it's very cool stuff, and I'm excited to see how it shapes up in >>>> the >>>> coming months. >>>> >>>> Second, a basic question: Given current development work and the >>>> road >>>> map for stable releases, would you recommend to someone like me to >>>> simply wait until version .7 is released before I even begin using >>>> SMW at all? In other words, are the changes in the .7 code >>>> substantial enough, and is the estimated release date of .7 close >>>> enough, to wait it out? >>>> >>>> My question is prompted by mentions of various code changes >>>> sprinkled >>>> around the mailing lists, and perhaps especially by this post from >>>> Markus: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php? >>>> msg_id=38122827. I'm in a situation where I can afford to wait a >>>> little while, but on the other hand, if the costs of waiting to >>>> "build out" my SMW-enabled wiki outweigh the benefits, I'd obviousy >>>> rather get on with it! >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time, and I look forward to our discussions >>>> ahead. :) >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> >>>> Nate >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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