Kelly said:
> Can I model all of these relations on Bob's page, or do I need to 
> create separate pages for Bill and Idaho?

Josh Said:
You can write them all in one page but i think it is cleaner and
logically nicer to add them in different pages.
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This must be new, when I looked into the semantic media wiki months ago,
the only things you could say on a web page are attributions of the
object of the web page. So you could not say Bill is in Idaho, if you
were on Bob's page. 

This was a major design decision in the first release.  One that I found
that to be a major limitation, so I stopped trying to use the tool.

Has this now changed?  If so, I think it is a great idea. High priority
should be placed on making it easy to create any triples you want
anytime anywhere.   After all, the tuples sit in a common triple store,
there is no reason for them to be strongly associated with any
particular wiki page.

Where you are and what you are doing when you create a triple should not
be terribly relevant. 

Or those are my current thoughts. Perhaps there are tradeoffs that I'm
not aware of.

Michael 

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Subject: Re: [swikig] Modeling "third party" relations on Semantic
Mediawikipage?

Hi Kelly,

i am not a smw developer, but i hope i can help too.

> I'm writing a Semantic Mediawiki page about Bob, and want to say:
> 
> Bob's brother, Bill, lives in Idaho, which borders Wyoming, and is 
> famous for its potatoes.
> 
> The semantic triples I'm modeling:
> 
> Bob has_brother Bill
> Bill lives_in Idaho
> Idaho famous_for potatoes
> Idaho borders Wyoming
> 
> Can I model all of these relations on Bob's page, or do I need to 
> create separate pages for Bill and Idaho?

You can write them all in one page but i think it is cleaner and
logically nicer to add them in different pages.

> 
> If I have to create pages for Bill and Idaho, is there any way I can 
> get Semantic Mediawiki to create those pages for me? (or edit the 
> pages if they already exist to include these new relations?)

If you have the Page Bob and you add [[has_brother::Bill]] a link for
Bob will occur in the wikitext after saving the page. You can now click
this page and edit directly the properties and relations for Bill. the
same will happen for Idaho and potatoes and Wyoming.

hope this helps

josh

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