We use normal saline which is recommended by the guidelines.

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On Nov 21, 2012, at 8:31 AM, 
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The question is witch cristaloid to use......saline solution or ringer?....

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Yes those are part of the 4 principal goals in surviving sepsis campain. We 
Also use the arterial line waves forms ior the plestitmographic waves for fluid 
Administracion or to use pressors

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El 20/11/2012, a las 10:47, "Mary Draper" 
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escribió:

Our facility continues to bolus an additional 3-5 liters if the lactate comes 
back ≥ 4. If after that and we have a CVP that is still < 8, we would continue 
to bolus.
Thanks.



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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors

New to the list serve so I apologize if this has been asked 
previously….Currently, we report Fluid Bolus of 20ml/kg, CVP for lactate > 4 or 
inability to maintain MAP and initiation of vasopressors if MAP < 65 as 
separate measures. Some of our ED physicians have questioned if we should wait 
to start pressors until we have gotten to a CVP of 8.
 Example: pt has a  MAP of 60 and a CVP of 4 after the fluid bolus –we look for 
the physician to start pressors.
I’m wondering what other facilities are doing?
Thanks!
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