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Asunto: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors
Fecha: lun., nov. 26, 2012 6:47 p. m.
Hope this attached article helps. As you can see, your ICU is not peculiar that 
most patients already come to the ICU in “sepsis” mode or sepsis treatment 
already
initiated.


Alexander Sy MD, FCCP, FACP, FAASM
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On Behalf Of Luginbuhl, Ryan S.

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:08 AM

To: 'John Brady'; Mary Draper; 'Hefton, Suzanne'; 
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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors



John,

We are implementing initiatives in both ED and the rest of the hospital. The ED 
will be different for us, but the floor they are doing screen based on an Early
Warning Score done by the nurse. This is for more than just sepsis but if they 
meet the sepsis criteria then that triggers our rapid response team to come 
evaluate and get the bundle going. Each patient gets a score for Early Warning 
Signs of sepsis. That
is the plan anyways. I don’t have the specifics on that project, because I’m in 
charge of the ED initiative, but that’s my understanding of the other.

Hope that helps. We also have EICU for our ICUs and we do have a best practice 
alert that can be turned on eventually too and we are working towards that as
well. 


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On Behalf Of John Brady

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:05 PM

To: Mary Draper; 'Hefton, Suzanne'; 
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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors



Currently we are monitoring for SIRS, known or suspected infection, Sepsis and 
then following guidelines for our severe sepsis and septic shock patients.  We
actually are doing the lactate, CBC and BC  after a positive screening for 
sepsis. We do these screenings on the floor and the ED.



We are trying to roll out a screening process for the ICU but most of our 
patients meet criteria for sepsis. Does anyone have a process that works for 
them
in the ICU. 



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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:43 AM

To: 'Hefton, Suzanne'; 
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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors



Our facility continues to bolus an additional 3-5 liters if the lactate comes 
back ≥ 4. If after that and we have a CVP that is still < 8, we would continue 
to bolus.

Thanks.




Mary Draper RN BSN CCRN
Quality Manager-Best Practice Support
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:55 PM

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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] use of vasopressors



New to the list serve so I apologize if this has been asked 
previously….Currently, we report Fluid Bolus of 20ml/kg, CVP for lactate
> 4 or inability to maintain MAP and initiation of vasopressors if MAP < 65 as 
> separate measures. Some of our ED physicians have questioned if we should 
> wait to start pressors until we have gotten to a CVP of 8.
Example: pt has a  MAP of 60 and a CVP of 4 after the fluid bolus –we look for 
the physician to start pressors..
I’m wondering what other facilities are doing?
Thanks!




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