Hi All,

 

Our system has been trying to use DRG's to pull sepsis data. Our site
collects concurrent data. When we cross-reference the patients, we find
that patient data pulled electronically does not reflect our practice.
Some patients in the electronic data do not even qualify for EGDT- such
as infection, sepsis. We've also found patients in the electronic data
that were administered palliative care and therefore not in our sepsis
database. We've also had patients in our database that do not pull
electronically because they are not coded properly or they had surgery
and severe sepsis or shock is down the DRG chain. It would be great if
electronic data was accurate because it makes data extraction easier.
However, concurrent chart review so far in my experience is the only way
to accurately perform CQI because the data is verifiable. Trying to
drill down with comprehensive electronic data is more time consuming and
does not provide immediate feedback to providers in time to affect
outcomes. If anyone has found a way to accurately capture the patients
electronically with the ability to cross-reference with clinical chart
data, please let me know!

 

Patty Cormack RN, MSN

Critical Care Clinical Educator

Sepsis Coordinator

CV Coordinator

Vanguard West Suburban Medical Center

P 708-763-6662

Pager 630-255-6049

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph
Clement
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] mortality

 


Hello, 

We use a methodology used by many hospitals in the area, adapted from
research by Viktor Dombrovskiy.  It is based on ICD-9 codes only. There
are no exclusion criteria.  Patients in the denominator are those with
either a sepsis code (995.91, 995.92, or 785.52) or both a code for
infection (e.g. pneumonia)  and a code for an organ dysfunction (e.g.
acute renal failure).  We have a specific list of codes we use if people
are interested. 

Joe 
Joseph Clement RN, MS, CCNS
Clinical Nurse Specialist

San Francisco General Hospital
phone: (415) 206-6174
pager: (415) 327-0220
[email protected]




"CARIANN M DAHLQUIST" <[email protected]> 
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11/28/2012 11:28 AM 

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[Sepsis Groups] mortality

 

                




Hello fellow sepsis coordinators, 
I am inquiring how everyone counts their sepsis mortality. I am curious
if you count each patient chart or if you count by patient days? I
currently only audit the critical care patients, however I am looking to
expand to house wide. Any input would be appreciated- 
Thanks, 
CariAnn 

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