I think of it as "All Cause Mortality"  so, no matter where they are when they 
expire it counts

Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Intensive Care Unit
Cookeville Regional Medical Center
931-783-5035

________________________________
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michelle 
Corder
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Philip S. Barie; Hesham Hassaballa; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Mortality

I have a question for the establishing mortality rate:
Do you include a patient that is transfered out of the ICU but later expires on 
the floor in the mortality rate?
or
Do you only count the patients that expire while in the ICU?

Michelle Corder
PIH Health

________________________________
From: [email protected] 
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip S. Barie 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 10:39 AM
To: Hesham Hassaballa; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Mortality
Yes, unless you can prove it to be completely unrelated. Which, it seems as 
though you cannot.
________________________________
From: [email protected] 
[[email protected]] on behalf of Hesham Hassaballa 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:28 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Mortality
I have a question:

A patient was admitted with septic shock, and we successfully treated him and 
he survived to ICU discharge. Approximately 17 days later, he codes and dies on 
the floor (unknown reason why) the day before he was slated to be discharged 
from the hospital.

Does this really count against our sepsis mortality?

Hesham A. Hassaballa, MD
Program Medical Director
Critical Care
Rush-Copley Medical Center

Assistant Professor of Medicine
Rush University Medical Center

Phone: (331) 454-6572

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