Dana,
I would suggest that your exclusion criteria be what makes sense at your 
facilities.
The one thing that I know from experience, is that the last thing the well 
meaning folks in the E.D. want is to do a great job with most of the patients 
only to be presented with a fall-out for a patient who had multiple dx and had 
the proper care for the most eminently urgent one; that is GIB or MI.
I like to use these cases to demonstrate that patients are allowed to have more 
than one dx requiring treatment, and that severe sepsis is often the cause of 
the seemingly more prominent issue; e.g. severe sepsis causing DKA or worsening 
heart failure or even MI.
So this is a gray answer to your question; in summary do what makes sense, give 
feedback where opportunities exist, but consider not counting the patients that 
you described as fallouts.  IMHO

Thanks,
Mary Ann Barnes-Daly, RN BSN CCRN DC
Regional Clinical Initiative Lead-Sepsis and ICU Liberation (ABCDE)
Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation Grant
Sutter Health Sacramento- Sierra Region
Blackberry: 916.200.5604   Office: 916.614.6370
Assissant: Ruby Dulay  916-614-6362
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You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, 
build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DanaMarie 
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 6:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] exclusions

Hi Everyone,
 I am collecting data on Sepsis Alerts we are currently running in our three 
EDs not inpatient yet. I also get HIM reports on severe sepsis we might have 
missed in the ed and not alerted. My question is on exclusions I know if they 
come in and are made comfort measures right away they are excluded. I have had 
some cases where the person came in as a STEMI and was treated for that first 
then discovered they also have sepsis and another case came in for severe GI 
bleed had to be stabilized and then realized they had severe sepsis. So I just 
want to be clear what patients should be excluded from the data collection.
                              Thank You,
                                      Dana


Dana Marie Smith RN
Clinical Data Analyst
Quality/Performance Improvement
Phone # 215- 612-5354
Fax # 215-612-4463


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