I queried Qnet with this question and they said the order has to state a time 
frame.  As a result, we are adding timeframes to all of our IVF bolus orders in 
the electronic order builds.

Sheree

From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Townsend, Sean, M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:55 PM
To: 'Cobb, Amy L.'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Crystalloid fluids

I do not believe this is correct.  I believe that if the order is written that 
way an assumption can be made that was how the fluid was delivered, within 2 
hours of the start.  If on the other hand there is a flow sheet that states it 
happened faster, that is not a problem.

Sean R. Townsend, M.D.
Vice President of Quality & Safety
California Pacific Medical Center
2330 Clay Street, #301
San Francisco, CA  94115
email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
office (415) 600-5770
fax (415) 600-1541

From: Cobb, Amy L. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:49 AM
To: Townsend, Sean, M.D.; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Crystalloid fluids

Question:

Looking for some clarification on the requirements regarding the crystalloid 
fluid administration.  From the Spec manual it looks like there is a 
documentation requirement for the time over which the IVFs are to be given in 
the physician order.  For example, the order must be written to say "give 
30ml/kg Normal saline IV bolus over next 2hrs".  It looks like we cannot accept 
("Choose Value 1") if we do not have that time frame even if it shows on the 
MAR that a bolus was given in an hour.  Correct?

Thank you!
Amy Cobb RN, BSN
Sepsis Coordinator/ICU Tracker
Research Outcomes
Morton Plant Hospital
MS #73
300 Pinellas St.
Clearwater, FL 33756
727-298-6953 (Desk)
727-462-3638 (Fax)
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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